7 - Ferran Torres
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Draconifire
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Gotchu.
Its a same word we use. In Hindi its kismat. And yes it is a word for fate.
Draconifire
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Joan
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It’s similar for Joao Pedro. I checked yesterday and he didn’t score once in September and October. And multiple other mini series without scoring throughout the season.
Khaled_a_d
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This is the market for strikers. There is no sure thing atm. Only Halaand who has a contract until 2034, Mbappe who is a second striker himself rather than a striker, both are non transferable. Then Kane who is 33, Osimhen who prefers life in Turkey and then a bunch of inconsistent strikers, all who would cost 100M+
Then some unproven prospects who will cost 70-90M.
Then some unproven prospects who will cost 70-90M.
Agreed but I'd add Alvarez to that he's elite imagine him under flickball scared stuff really.
Martinez is also a top triker.
6 actually top strikers in the world, some being better than others in those 6 obviously.
It's slim pickings.
I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't buy a striker and just focus on a LF & CB.
Which should be the priority positions anyways.
Martinez is also a top triker.
6 actually top strikers in the world, some being better than others in those 6 obviously.
It's slim pickings.
I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't buy a striker and just focus on a LF & CB.
Which should be the priority positions anyways.
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Khaled_a_d
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Alvarez and Lautaro are both some of the top, and both are extremely inconsistent too.
ajnotkeith
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La Masia has never been able to produce strikers. We can solve almost all our problems from there, winger, midfielder, even defenders, but never the number 9.
I think Barca B needs to be more aggressive with signing some striker prospects that we can develop there for the first team. Many of the striker signings we made for the B team were players we bought to help the B team and didn't buy them for progression to the first team (Jutgla, Pau Victor, Manaj etc).
And this season, B uses 24 year old Delgado, who isn't good enough to be considered for the first-team, because Barbera struggles with fitness.
But we need to fill that position with players who have a possible development path for the first-team going forward.
I think Barca B needs to be more aggressive with signing some striker prospects that we can develop there for the first team. Many of the striker signings we made for the B team were players we bought to help the B team and didn't buy them for progression to the first team (Jutgla, Pau Victor, Manaj etc).
And this season, B uses 24 year old Delgado, who isn't good enough to be considered for the first-team, because Barbera struggles with fitness.
But we need to fill that position with players who have a possible development path for the first-team going forward.
ajnotkeith
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There were some on this forum who used to say that the B team getting promoted to Segunda (was close to happen a few times, of course now it's very distant) was a bad thing because it would obstruct the development of players and mean we'd have to rely on some experience.
However, if the B team had been in Segunda, it's also easier to convince possible signings and talented players to play with the B team whilst they wait for first-team minutes, since it's a decent level. It should also be easier to evaluate potential talent.
With the B team in the 4th division, its now very difficult to sign any young players to take a role there without guaranteed first team minutes.
However, if the B team had been in Segunda, it's also easier to convince possible signings and talented players to play with the B team whilst they wait for first-team minutes, since it's a decent level. It should also be easier to evaluate potential talent.
With the B team in the 4th division, its now very difficult to sign any young players to take a role there without guaranteed first team minutes.
Khaled_a_d
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What players did we brought in Segunda that succeeded with us? Who did succeed in other clubs when they brought them in Segunda? What other big clubs have a reserve team in second division? This myth have to stop.
4th division is an awful league too atm, because worse opponents, worse pitches, worse refereeing and so worse tackles etc. It happened due to Marquez bailing out in a season that was supposed to be a transitional one (happens every 2 or 3 years for a reserve team) and forced our hands to use an awful assistant as the main man.
We were top of our group this year before injuries, which destroyed the entire team. Like how many ACL did we have? 4 or so?
Still, we got the best defender from Uruguay to join, same as a biggest prospect from the biggest club in Africa, along a guy like Jesse Bisiwu who is likely joining from Brugge.
I doubt it matters which division we are into that much. It is still not a first division football. You either get prospects willing to do reserve team or not. The margin of those whom it will matter which division is the reserve team us, are pretty negligible. And we are unlikely able to afford them anyway.
Don Money Laporta Estruch
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The height of madness would be spending 60 - 100m on a player who is marginally better than Ferran, or, it could be argued, is not better at all. That's what we are essentially being linked with so far with the likes of João Pedro, Marmoush et al. Alvarez is a step up but not a good fit. Osimhen is the only one who ticks the boxes but can you get him out of his Turkish Psg style golden prison ?
Sometimes the best trade is to not make a trade at all. Do we really want to waste a fortune on a striker who is not good enough out of desperation to replace Lewa and be stuck with him and not have the money to bid for a striker that comes along in the future who is perfect for us?
It seems more and more that the best move may be to stick with Ferran and invest in a cheap up and coming striker like Espi hoping you strike gold and he turns out to be an upgrade, in the best case scenario, or at the very least provide adequate cover for Ferran, in the worst case scenario.
Sometimes the best trade is to not make a trade at all. Do we really want to waste a fortune on a striker who is not good enough out of desperation to replace Lewa and be stuck with him and not have the money to bid for a striker that comes along in the future who is perfect for us?
It seems more and more that the best move may be to stick with Ferran and invest in a cheap up and coming striker like Espi hoping you strike gold and he turns out to be an upgrade, in the best case scenario, or at the very least provide adequate cover for Ferran, in the worst case scenario.
Draconifire
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This is one way we could do it.
I want us to go for Panichelli. Guy was pretty good before his ACL injury. Maybe we can get him for cheap.
Then see next year who is in the market. I belive there will be a lot more option than this summer.
Khaled_a_d
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There is a very good chance this will be the case regardless we sign a new striker or not.
If a striker appears to tick all the boxes, he will be worth 150M+ and insane wages, likely even larger than any player we have atm.
R9.
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Oh yeah, we will miss much Kounde and Balde, but Van de Veen, best profile ever for our system will not help us.You want Barca to go trophy-less next season?
B.Silva as sub for Pedri is great job, Grimaldo great sub for Cancelo and for striker we get what market offers
Don Money Laporta Estruch
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Mi madre, how dirty he has been done. Scored goals for fun last season and now he is going to be replaced by a guy who is going to play out of position and that had a far worse season than him and never scores at all, unless it's a FLASH GORDON PENALTY.
I genuinely feel sorry for the guy.
It's disgusting.
I genuinely feel sorry for the guy.
It's disgusting.
