10 - Lamine Yamal

He has only 1 argument. That there are better teams in EPL in the middle to lower section than in any other league. That's nowhere near enough to consider it the best league when the top sides in England embarrass themselves in CL receiving hockey scores eliminations.

We will see next season. If EPL teams once again receive beatdowns... it's all but official that they are in a steep decline.
 
American dunce has no clue.

I argued for La Liga being best in world when Barca and Real in their pomp.

You dont have a single clue as per usual.

Yank dunce.

Almost like was proven correct that EPL teams started winnng more when winners get into bigger competition..

JamDav correct again.
 
serghei said:
He has only 1 argument. That there are better teams in EPL in the middle to lower section. That's nowhere near enough to consider it the best leagues when the top sides in England embarrass themselves in CL receiving hockey scores eliminations.
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No other league in last ten years has had more than one winner of CL.

No other league has had as many finalists in CL.

EPL has done fine.

Tell us again how shite Cubarsi is.

Not a clue.
 
JamDav1982 said:
No other league in last ten years has had more than one winner of CL.

No other league has had as many finalists in CL.

EPL has done fine.

Tell us again how shite Cubarsi is.

Not a clue.
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We'll see if they can recover next season. They can come back to no1. They have the money, but no elite manager in sight, and the best players are leaving the league.
 
Since end of Ronaldo/Messi era of La Liga there has been 2 La Liga CL wins from one team.

There has been ONE La Liga team in final sof CL.

In that time.. THREE EPL winners and 5 different finalists with TWO all EPL finals.

Last two PSG have won and been an all time CL side... both seasons the EPL champions went out on penalties to them.

Its quite clear.

It is up to La Liga to try and change it.
 
That's because Pep and Klopp changed EPL. And they brought it to no1. Now they're gone... and EPL went back to no2 where they've been mostly for 30 years except spells here and there.
 
serghei said:
We'll see if they can recover next season. They can come back to no1. They have the money, but no elite manager in sight, and the best players are leaving the league.
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Far and away the No1 ranked league and won 4 of last 6 European trophies.

Only PSG has won outwith EPL sides and the closes to beating PSG those two seasons was EPL champions.
 
serghei said:
That's because Pep and Klopp changed EPL. And they brought it to no1. Now they're gone... and EPL went back to no2 where they've been mostly for 30 years except spells here and there.
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Can give whatever reasons you like.. couldnt care less.

EPL lterally has won 4 of last 6 European Trophies and only PSG won outwith that. An all time top CL side.

Barca and Real should be better than EPL teams in CL next season. Up to them to show it.
 
As you've been explained, they are on a steep decline with only 1 team making CL top 4 in the last 3 seasons. They need to change this trend.

Chelsea players are screaming they want out, they look like people on a stranded island calling for help and making fire hoping some cruise ship spots them. :lol:

It is irrelevant what happened during Pep and Klopp. They are gone.
 
serghei said:
As you've been explain, they are on a steep decline with only 1 team making CL top 4 in the last 3 seasons. They need to change this trend.
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'Steep decline'

EPL teams have come across PSG is the reality who are the best side in past two seasons.

Regardless the argument is also strngth of league as whole and its EPL by far across the board as results have shown.

Go tell us how shite Cubarsi is again.
 
Cuba looks much better for Spain since they have midfield who give him passing options. Barca mids wait for Cuba to hoof to Yamal or donkey. Flick high line also makes him look weak in defense.

Notice how few inshatrivelas we saw from Yamal in WC. DLF would be much better for us than Flick.
 
Here's another one.

In the last 3 years, EPL teams have knocked out La Liga teams from CL as many times as other Spanish teams. Twice. They have lost twice as many ties as they won 4 vs 2.

The no1 league needs to have stronger top teams than the no2 league. Otherwise it is simply not no1.
 
Heres another one.

More EPL finalists in last two years of CL as from La Liga.

Heres another one.

Last time EPL v La Liga team met in last 4 it was hammering of La Liga side.

Since the last La Liga team won a European trophy EPL teams have won 4.. 5 if include CWC.

Barca beating Newcastle means nothing.. Barca are far better side and saying that adds nothing
 
JamDav1982 said:
Heres another one.

More EPL finalists in last two years of CL as from La Liga.

Heres another one.

Since the last La Liga team won a European trophy EPL teams have won 4.. 5 if include CWC.
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Pfff, so weak... :lol:

I give you World Cup performance, might as well add Euros too,
Most top class players,
Better results in CL by more teams in recent history...

and you give me Conference League.
 
serghei said:
Pfff, so weak... :lol:

I give you World Cup performance, might as well add Euros too,
Most top class players,
Better results in CL by more teams in recent history...

and you give me Conference League.
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Again..

Since end of Messi/Ronaldo era.

3 different EPL winners and 1 from La Liga.

5 different CL finalist and 1 from La Liga.

Two all EPL Finals.

More recent? Last team to reach final.. EPL side.

Argument is league as a whole.. thats why other trophies matter also.
 
Iniesta Ultra said:
Rodri will never be better than prime Busi, not even close.
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Yup, Busi dominated in an era when you had likes of Kroos, Modric or Pirlo in their prime. He was toying with Kroos in Clasicos.
Rodri while very good, is not on same level.
Now you have a guy like Fabian Ruiz as back to back CL winner and back to back EL and WC winner. He doesn't even get in Spain's top 10 when it comes to midfielders.
 
Busi was not as good as Rodri and was fucking horrendous a lot for Barca and Spain in big games after Xavi and Iniesta were off their peak.

He wasnt toying with Modric and Kroos either. Just nonsense.

Won 1 CL in that time where the midfield was by far secondary to the best front line of all time.

Spain and Barca have been better without Busi is the reality. Even the older Busi was held up as some top player when was nowhere near it.
 
malvolio said:
You have clowns like you in here who create a false narrative that Yamal was unfit and then double up with some run of the mill comments from his manager. All this to try an sell this story on how Spain wouldn't have made it without him and he definitely deserves a Ballon D'or for his showing.

All the while the boy doesn't even make team of the tournament or top three performers in Spain's squad. But hey, bad people are hyping "statpadders" like Mbappe and Kane who guess what?! They're doing their fucking job as strikers scoring goals.

PS: forgot the supreme argument - he's a Barca player so let's throw any debate or argument out the window since Madrid were cunts for Rodri's Ballon ceremony, so we also have to support Yamal no matter what!
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Ldf said exactly what happened. Spain wouldnt win without lamine, the amount of space olmo oyarzabal ferran and the rest had in most of the games because of lamine presence is laughable. Go rewatch the games and you would find out, if not, well, sincerely start watching games from 1 to last minute.
 
Prime Busi was creatively and technically superior to Rodri, but Rodri is a more complete player than Busquets was. Overall, it depends on the midfield structure and available players.

Rodri would have fit just fine instead of Busquets with Xavi and Iniesta, that's for sure.
 
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