10 - Lamine Yamal

serghei

Senior Member
Maybe it's not such a good idea to play Yamal all the time in every game almost. If he can't compete physically vs strong opponents, he's gonna be shut down in games like these, and will be a constat source of bad turnovers. No trick on the planet is gonna save him.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
But the times have changed.

18 today is like 23 from 2010'.

Wingers play from the age of 16-17 today due to needs of 433 and 4231 formation.

So, we shouldn't compare him to 18 year olds from 2010'.

With today's social media, burnout and complacency, Yamal will be finished by the age of 26.

So, forget about him being 18.

You have no clue about Yamal as has been proven.

Keep moving goal posts though.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Maybe it's not such a good idea to play Yamal all the time in every game almost. If he can't compete physically vs strong opponents, he's gonna be shut down in games like these, and will be a constat source of bad turnovers. No trick on the planet is gonna save him.

He can compete physcially.. his main issue yesterday was getting frustrated and making bad decisions too often.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Also drew with them at home last season and lost at home.

Against Atletico in league this season they missed chances and a sitter to equalise late on.

Would hope no one thought had their number.

We lost at home but it was a game we should have won by 2-3 goals. Imo, in this match, one side played like it was a very important game, supercharged, and the other brought the usual level that sufficed vs likes of Oviedo and Mallorca. Not nearly enough on the night to even make it close.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
We lost at home but it was a game we should have won by 2-3 goals. Imo, in this match, one side played like it was a very important game, supercharged, and the other brought the usual level that sufficed vs likes of Oviedo and Mallorca. Not nearly enough on the night to even make it close.

Barca played well enough but Atleti missed chances and a sitter to equalise late on as well as a Garcia save that was onside.

Barca players and Flick lost the plot a bit last night but frustrating part in ways that are not new and been fortunate in past a bit.
 

serghei

Senior Member
He can compete physcially.. his main issue yesterday was getting frustrated and making bad decisions too often.

He was getting frustrated because he couldn't really dribble through AM players. And if his plan and his approach is to expect to beat 2-3 players constantly, when those players are of the higher level than the mediocrity he faces usually in the league, he's gonna get into problems more and more.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Barca played well enough but Atleti missed chances and a sitter to equalise late on as well as a Garcia save that was onside.

Barca players and Flick lost the plot a bit last night but frustrating part in ways that are not new and been fortunate in past a bit.
I'm talking about the loss at home you mentioned, the 1-2. It was a totally different game than last night.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Yamal tries to do his game and if it works, he's elite, if he doesn't, he's one of the worst on the pitch. He's got to find a way to at least be ok when the other team defends him well. But he doesn't. He just tries the same stuff, and ends up losing the ball a huge amount, without doing much to defend when it happens. Very very poor approach. Puts himself in a corner if he does this.

I understand and appreciate that he takes responsability to be the main man offensively, but if you can't on the night, at least don't be a liability. Keep the ball moving, don't lose it time and time again. Track back more at least. There's ways to help even if you're not on your A game offensively.
 

malvolio

Senior Member
Unfortunately for him he doesn't have the chance to grow up in a team of legendary players. Sure, the forum would drop their collective tampon if Messi or Suarez would have shouted at him for trying tricks at the wrong time, but at least he would have learned some humility and would have been better supported. Can't do much from a mentality perspective when you're surrounded by weaklings or clowns.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Suarez didn't score an away goal in CL for 4 years. The way some fans hold Suarez at such an insane standard is funny really, probably because he was Messi's pal. :lol: He shouldn't shout at anyone.
 

malvolio

Senior Member
Suarez didn't score an away goal in CL for 4 years. The way some fans hold Suarez at such an insane standard is funny really, probably because he was Messi's pal. :lol: He shouldn't shout at anyone.
I was talking about the fact he is missing some role models in the squad and the overall level being low. Even young Neymar had a thing or two to learn when he got here. Imagine Yamal emerging when Messi and Suarez where in their primes. Another galaxy basically from playing with retired Lewa and Lidl Tuna Ferran.
 

serghei

Senior Member
I was talking about the fact he is missing some role models in the squad and the overall level being low. Even young Neymar had a thing or two to learn when he got here. Imagine Yamal emerging when Messi and Suarez where in their primes. Another galaxy basically from playing with retired Lewa and Lidl Tuna Ferran.

Not so sure about that. Learn from Messi and Suarez what exactly? How to suck in CL away from home and get shat on by likes of Roma, Juventus etc?

We're talking about some of the darkest days of Barcelona in big games in the modern era. If you're talking about Pep days, sure, completely different conversation. That team was an animal.

If he wants to learn about the dangers of complacency and lack of effort in big games, then what you say is true, he should learn from those days, but use that as a warning lesson. Not a model.
 

malvolio

Senior Member
Not so sure about that. Learn from Messi and Suarez what exactly? How to suck in CL away from home and get shat on by likes of Roma, Juventus etc?

We're talking about some of the darkest days of Barcelona in big games in the modern era. If you're talking about Pep days, sure, completely different conversation. That team was an animal.

If he wants to learn about the dangers of complacency and lack of effort in big games, then what you say is true, he should learn from those days, but use that as a warning lesson. Not a model.
:lol: yeah, he's better off now. forgot how much of a clown you are.
 

serghei

Senior Member
:lol: yeah, he's better off now. forgot how much of a clown you are.

Sorry for hitting at your idols. I know truth is nasty at times. But everything the Amigos Barcelona achieved past 2015 (so we're talking about 5-6 years) we are achieving now also on a tiny transfer budget. Domestic success, with bad performances away to bigger teams in cup competitions. The difference is we now spend less than 5% of what we did back then.

There's not much to be learned from that broken down team regarding performances in high intensity games.
 

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