Ryan Gravenberch

[Fati_Future_BallonDor]

Goretzka used to be good. He just fell off.

They should likely have kept Gravenberch. I do rate him highly, just feels a bit knee-jerk the comments in the twitter above. Liverpool haven't even played that well this season.

imo even prime Goretzka was average, he scored some nice goals and ppl forgot that he cant do basic things of a midfield player

yeah but they still won, it's Slot football, not spectacular but they will win - EV vibez

 

[Temptation]

Bayern must be the most stupid club itw to not see the potential in him and keep Goretzka lol

He was always one of the biggest wonderkids at Ajax.

Goretzka was brilliant and a box to box beast under Flick. He bulked up a lot during Covid and lost his hair in the process. He was great under Flick alongside Kimmich.

 

[Maradona37]

imo even prime Goretzka was average, he scored some nice goals and ppl forgot that he cant do basic things of a midfield player

yeah but they still won, it's Slot football, not spectacular but they will win - EV vibez

Fair enough on Goretzka

But comments like best mf in world are too much. Is he definitely better than Mac Allister, even at Liverpool? He's playing better right now but I am not convinced he's a better overall footballer.

 

[Fati_Future_BallonDor]

He was always one of the biggest wonderkids at Ajax.

Goretzka was brilliant and a box to box beast under Flick. He bulked up a lot during Covid and lost his hair in the process. He was great under Flick alongside Kimmich.

I didnt follow him at Ajax, just with Bayern and he never amazed me, Kimmich was the main character in midfield under Flick imo....poor hair though but looks like he did a ht

 

[Maradona37]

I didnt follow him at Ajax, just with Bayern and he never amazed me, Kimmich was the main character in midfield under Flick imo....poor hair though but looks like he did a ht

He means Grav at Ajax.

 

[Fati_Future_BallonDor]

Fair enough on Goretzka

But comments like best mf in world are too much. Is he definitely better than Mac Allister, even at Liverpool? He's playing better right now but I am not convinced he's a better overall footballer.

think difficult to compare, both have different strenghts but both belong to the best midfield players itw

i would take Vitinha and Pedri above them though

 

[Fati_Future_BallonDor]

He means Grav at Ajax.

ah ok wondered why i didnt hear from him at ajax, yeah that makes sense

 

[Maradona37]

think difficult to compare, both have different strenghts but both belong to the best midfield players itw

i would take Vitinha and Pedri above them though

Agree with it all.

He's clearly class, but Vitinha and Pedri (and De Jong and Neves) are so so elite. It's no shame to be a great midfielder but not as good as those four.

 

[Maradona37]

ah ok wondered why i didnt hear from him at ajax, yeah that makes sense

He wasn't very clear, though using 'Goretzka' at the start of the second line makes it a bit more obvious he's changed who he's talking about.

 

[Fati_Future_BallonDor]

Agree with it all.

He's clearly class, but Vitinha and Pedri (and De Jong and Neves) are so so elite. It's no shame to be a great midfielder but not as good as those four.

Imo Pedri is a different class

then come De Jong&Vitinha

then Neves

 

[Maradona37]

Imo Pedri is a different class

then come De Jong&Vitinha

then Neves

Yeah I think Pedri is better than all. He's a top 5 player itw imo, said that several times now.

He's a special footballer. Would fit right in at Pep's Barca is highest compliment I am able to give him.

 

[Fati_Future_BallonDor]

He wasn't very clear, though using 'Goretzka' at the start of the second line makes it a bit more obvious he's changed who he's talking about.

ah yes you're right, should have seen it

 

[Temptation]

I didnt follow him at Ajax, just with Bayern and he never amazed me, Kimmich was the main character in midfield under Flick imo....poor hair though but looks like he did a ht

L ball knowledge bro. You need to stop watching the camel league asap. Even Georgina and Junior don't watch it.

 

[Fati_Future_BallonDor]

ok guys need to go

 

[Fati_Future_BallonDor]

L ball knowledge bro. You need to stop watching the camel league asap. Even Georgina and Junior don't watch it.

Georgina was in the stadium today