Champions League 25/26

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serghei

serghei

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Also, Liverpool can take advantage of City looking washed, they can really get a hold of the league and dominate like City did. Arsenal can be taken care of, and then they are pretty much running by themselves.
 
jamrock

jamrock

Senior Member
Still haven't seen him do anything that would make him better than Ramos or pique at their best.

They were playing against prime Ronaldo and Messi, Eto'o, suarez, lewa, drogba etc, the individual quality of strikers/attackers where better then compared to now.

But he is the best of his generation by a looooong way, which is what I think confuses many into thinking he's better than a few that were here before him, who's he competing against even as defenders.

Diaz
Salina

every meh generation all around.
 
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jamrock

jamrock

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I genuinely can't think of a time their has been such a big difference between the best defender in the world and the second best.

Makes him look better than he really is, and he's great.
 
T

Temptation

Well-known member
jamrock said:
Still haven't seen him do anything that would make him better than Ramos or pique at their best.

They were playing against prime Ronaldo and Messi, Eto'o, suarez, lewa, etc, the individual quality of strikers/attackers where better then compared to now.

But he is the best of his generation by a looooong way, which is what I think confuses many into thinking he's better than a few that were here before him, who's he competing against even as defenders.

Diaz
Salina

every meh generation all around.
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He can defend half the pitch singlehandedly against even the fastest attackers like Mbappe and Traore.

He rarely gets booked, commits fouls or makes reckless tackles.

He singlehandedly organizes our defense. When he gets injured we fight for top 4.

Outstanding on the ball and has brilliant diagonals.

Scores important headers and always turns up in finals, big games and clutch moments.

Tall, rapid, strongest player in the game. Generational physical specimen.

Pique was toast against fast attackers with quick feet and Ramos was extremely volatile and lacked discipline. Diego Godin was a better pure defender than both. Ramos was a better overall package than Godin obviously.

Van Dijk has no flaws in his game and is very complete. The ease with which he dominates attackers has never been seen before. He rarely breaks a sweat for 90 minutes.

Every defender looks class next to him. Whether it was Matip, Konate, Lovren or Gomez. All of which struggled without him.

Prime Van Dijk was untouchable. Opposition fans waited years for a player to dribble past him. When he finally got dribbled by someone (Perisic), it went viral.

Watch him for 90 minutes and you'll see why he's so special. We have opponents and active players talking about his aura lol.
 
KingLeo10

KingLeo10

Senior Member
Temptation said:
He can defend half the pitch singlehandedly against even the fastest attackers like Mbappe and Traore.

He rarely gets booked, commits fouls or makes reckless tackles.

He singlehandedly organizes our defense. When he gets injured we fight for top 4.

Outstanding on the ball and has brilliant diagonals.

Scores important headers and always turns up in finals and clutch moments.

Tall, rapid, strongest player in the game. Generational physical specimen.

Pique was toast against fast attackers with quick feet and Ramos was extremely volatile and lacked discipline. Diego Godin was a better pure defender than both. Ramos was a better overall package than Godin obviously.

Van Dijk has no flaws in his game and is very complete. The ease with which he dominates attackers has never been seen before. He rarely breaks a sweat for 90 minutes.

Every defender looks class next to him. Whether it was Matip, Konate, Lovren or Gomez. All of which struggled without him.

Prime Van Dijk was untouchable. Opposition fans waited years for a player to dribble past him. When he finally got dribbled by someone (Perisic), it went viral.

Watch him for 90 minutes and you'll see why he's so special. We have opponents and active players talking about his aura lol.
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Past Prime Messi/ old Messi didn't get shut down by him in those CL games and the WC game. And when it comes to dribbling, he backs away a lot.

Which makes me think he'd struggle (lose duels more often than win at least) versus prime versions of GOAT attackers. Some of the other names like Nesta, Maldini and co won a fair amount of duels against the likes of R9, Maradona etc.

And Ramos had to go against Messi (and R10) while Pique versus CR7.

VVD just doesn't have the resume against GOAT attackers.
 
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