Liverpool

[KingLeo10]

LMAOL
The idiot strikes again.

Yes dude, a transfer window with 8 failed transfers is for sure a transfer window to remember.

Prime Luis Suarez
Prime Rakitic
Bravo

Versus unproven Wirtz and semi-proven Isak

Keep hanging off those soggy Scouser sacks, ya bum

 

[Porque]

I can think of better transfers that can be achieved with 400m.

For example in 2017 it could get you Dembele, Neymar and Coutinho.

That's one future Balon d'Or, one balons d'whore's and one one Balon d'poor.

 

[Temptation]

Isak is one of the best strikers in the world.

Wirtz won back to back Bundesliga player of the season and is the German NT's main man. Madrid, City and Bayern famously wanted Wirtz.

Frimpong is one of the best RWBs in the world.

Kerkez was the best LB in the PL last season.

Ekitike is a gamble but he has already hit the ground running from the 1st minute.

Name a better reserve keeper than
Mamardashvili.

Leoni was one of the best young defenders in Serie A.

Sold players worth 250 mil.

It's an elite window objectively. One of the best ever.

 

[TheStig]

You can rate this transfer window in 1 or 2 years, not now. I think there will be some wins like Isak and Ekitike if they'll be able to play together but also some flops like Frimpong and Wirtz is looking like Barca's version of Coutinho for now but it's too early.

 

[Andresito]

If this was FM it would've been a perfect window. But we can say nothing about the quality of the transfers until a couple of years in when players have settled and won a couple of titles. Demands are huge so anything else than a PL or CL each year should be considered a failure. Otherwise, what's the point of the elite 400m window?

Kaka was a Ballon d'Or winner, Hazard best player in PL. Look how they turned out at RM.

Isak is still far from the batch of CFs we had 10 years ago, even if he's considered one of the best of today. Says more about the current others than Isak. His best goal ratio is 0.75 goals per 90, two seasons ago.

Don't really understand the point of discussing this as the best window of all time with nothing to back it up. Either one of these players can fail, in fact they have a lot to prove since almost none of them have played for a title favourite.

 

[Fati_Future_BallonDor]

You can rate this transfer window in 1 or 2 years, not now. I think there will be some wins like Isak and Ekitike if they'll be able to play together but also some flops like Frimpong and Wirtz is looking like Barca's version of Coutinho for now but it's too early.

also feeling Wirtz could end like Coutinho but yeah too early to tell

PL is no joke, he will need at least 3 months to adapt to that gameplay and to get chemistry with the players

feel though with Kloppo this Liverpool would eat everything, Slot is far below him

 

[khaled_a_d]

If this was FM it would've been a perfect window. But we can say nothing about the quality of the transfers until a couple of years in when players have settled and won a couple of titles. Demands are huge so anything else than a PL or CL each year should be considered a failure. Otherwise, what's the point of the elite 400m window?

Kaka was a Ballon d'Or winner, Hazard best player in PL. Look how they turned out at RM.

Isak is still far from the batch of CFs we had 10 years ago, even if he's considered one of the best of today. Says more about the current others than Isak. His best goal ratio is 0.75 goals per 90, two seasons ago.

Don't really understand the point of discussing this as the best window of all time with nothing to back it up. Either one of these players can fail, in fact they have a lot to prove since almost none of them have played for a title favourite.

I would say anything below 2 EPL and a CL within next 5 years is a failure for this side. They were the EPL winning side last year and top of league phase in CL and only beaten by penalties by the eventual champions.

This type of transfermarket usually happens in a club that is trying to fix things, like us in 2014 and Real in 2009. Both achieved CL titles and league titles within next years. To have it while having one of the best teams already, the bar is really high.

 

[Temptation]

I would say anything below 2 EPL and a CL within next 5 years is a failure for this side. They were the EPL winning side last year and top of league phase in CL and only beaten by penalties by the eventual champions.

This type of transfermarket usually happens in a club that is trying to fix things, like us in 2014 and Real in 2009. Both achieved CL titles and league titles within next years. To have it while having one of the best teams already, the bar is really high.

Depends on how long VVD lasts.

We're still so dependent on him.

 

[Fati_Future_BallonDor]

I would say anything below 2 EPL and a CL within next 5 years is a failure for this side. They were the EPL winning side last year and top of league phase in CL and only beaten by penalties by the eventual champions.

This type of transfermarket usually happens in a club that is trying to fix things, like us in 2014 and Real in 2009. Both achieved CL titles and league titles within next years. To have it while having one of the best teams already, the bar is really high.

Real needed to wait 5 years to win their cl though. I think Liverpool is strong enough to win it but as Tempt says Virgil's time is nearly over + Salah is underperforming. Lets see how strong this Liverpool side really is.

 

[Birdy]

Prime Luis Suarez
Prime Rakitic
Bravo

Versus unproven Wirtz and semi-proven Isak

Keep hanging off those soggy Scouser sacks, ya bum

Oh yes, it needs a really clever scouting department to identify as a target prime Suarez, probably the best striker ever during his prime, and a player who had always his heart set to play for Barca.
Rakitic was good. Bravo was meh, only 1 good season. Both easy signings from LL.

And after these three more than obvious signings, our incompetent sporting department handed us with another 8 (!) failed signings (the likes of Matheu, Vermaelen, Douglas, and other crap)

Only an idiot could compare such window with a window where the utility and future projection of even the last signing is calculated up to decimals by Edwards and Hughes

Keep parading your ignorance about the sport

 

[khaled_a_d]

feel though with Kloppo this Liverpool would eat everything, Slot is far below him

Slot isn't that far below him, he is just a more pragmatic coach. A bit like Madrid type of coach.
Football will always be inferior to the ones they used to play, but I think results is comparable.

Real needed to wait 5 years to win their cl though. I think Liverpool is strong enough to win it but as Tempt says Virgil's time is nearly over + Salah is underperforming. Lets see how strong this Liverpool side really is.

Real was getting annihilated before that year, though.
Sure, there core is old, but again his is why they are making such a splash. It is to build an elite winning core that replaces the old guard + winning on the short term.

 

[Birdy]

If this was FM it would've been a perfect window. But we can say nothing about the quality of the transfers until a couple of years in when players have settled and won a couple of titles. Demands are huge so anything else than a PL or CL each year should be considered a failure. Otherwise, what's the point of the elite 400m window?

Kaka was a Ballon d'Or winner, Hazard best player in PL. Look how they turned out at RM.

Isak is still far from the batch of CFs we had 10 years ago, even if he's considered one of the best of today. Says more about the current others than Isak. His best goal ratio is 0.75 goals per 90, two seasons ago.

Don't really understand the point of discussing this as the best window of all time with nothing to back it up. Either one of these players can fail, in fact they have a lot to prove since almost none of them have played for a title favourite.

1) It's not 400m, its around 214m in net spent, and after 3 windows of spending close to zero

2) Yes, it's true of every signing that you can't predict the future. After 2-4 years we can say whether each one of them has succeeded/failed.

We are now discussing something different: to judge a window based on what we have seen so far about the players, what needs each addresses, and how the overall window elevates a team on paper.
Going from Nunez to Isak, and from Elliot to Wirtz is a huge upgrade for instance.

 

[Birdy]

I would say anything below 2 EPL and a CL within next 5 years is a failure for this side. They were the EPL winning side last year and top of league phase in CL and only beaten by penalties by the eventual champions.

This type of transfermarket usually happens in a club that is trying to fix things, like us in 2014 and Real in 2009. Both achieved CL titles and league titles within next years. To have it while having one of the best teams already, the bar is really high.

They only won last EPL because Arsenal and City collapsed under their own struggles.

It was definetely not predicted by the Liverpool hierarchy. That's why they still revamped their squad heavily.
Because they knew they had to do it in order to dominate in the years to come

 

[khaled_a_d]

Oh yes, it needs a really clever scouting department to identify as a target prime Suarez, probably the best striker ever during his prime, and a player who had always his heart set to play for Barca.
Rakitic was good. Bravo was meh, only 1 good season. Both easy signings from LL.

And after these three more than obvious signings, our incompetent sporting department handed us with another 8 (!) failed signings (the likes of Matheu, Vermaelen, Douglas, and other crap)

WTF are you onto? Barca made 7 signings that summer in total.
Suarez, Rakitic, Bravo, MATS, Mathieue, Vermaelen and Douglas.
That was an absolutely elite transfer market. Mathieue was old and gave us only 2 very good years, but was worth 20M and low wages. Was solid addition. Vermaelen and Douglas cost us only 14M in total, and Vermaelen gave us 2 decent year as backup, bad transfer but doesn't drag the rating of the windows.

And which transfer from the 2025 Liverpool transfer market required any type of scouting? Only Leoni, the rest were already established big names that got transferred for some insane fees.

 

[jamrock]

That Barca window was equal to the one Liverpool had, idk what great scouting had to do with signing Isak, wirtz, frimpong.

It's actually better until they win something.

Our 22/23 window is better than that, without any context. Now if we add a bit of context as to where we were before that point its significantly better than this liverpool.

Kounde
Christensen
Lewa
Raphinha
Kessie

Even if we include bellerin, Alonso.

All that for around 150m and our net spend was low as well, if memory serves me right.

From that we got 2 league titles, 1 CL SF.
Let's see what this season brings.