Denzel Dumfries

Raketa10

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We should go for him as 25 mil is a daylight robbery. All of a sudden we are well covered on RB position with Kounde and Garcia? I mean WTF??? Garcia is not even a good player to start with and RB is not his natural position. Dumfries is a very good player, definitely much better than his price tag suggests and is a market opportunity that will last only for 10 more days. Furthermore, missing a decent full back backups last season costed us big time against Inter.

Regarding LB position, if Jofre Torrents can be a decent backup for Balde, like some are reporting, than we are gonna be fine. People need to understand that there are currently no market opportunities for LB position and for RB there are, so we should act accordingly.
 
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MonteCuler

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We should go for him as 25 mil is a daylight robbery. Al of a sudden we are well covered on RB position with Kounde and Garcia? I mean WTF??? Garcia is not even a good player to start with and RB is not his natural position. Dumfries is a great player, definitely much better than his price tag suggests.

Regarding LB position, if Jofre Torrents can be a decent backup for Balde, like some are reporting, than we are gonna be fine.
Garcia did very well against Inter and later when Kounde was injured, I think we should trust him. LB is bigger urgency. We cant rely on Jofre exploding. If he struggles to adapt at first which would be completely normal we would have to play third divison footballer Martin again. But if they trust Jofre so much then okay I guess we shouldnt sign any fullback
 

jamrock

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Garcia has earned trust at RB and that's a lot for me to say, has I don't rate him at all, but at RB he's shown enough to stick around.
 

Raketa10

Senior Member
Garcia did very well against Inter and later when Kounde was injured, I think we should trust him. LB is bigger urgency. We cant rely on Jofre exploding. If he struggles to adapt at first which would be completely normal we would have to play third divison footballer Martin again. But if they trust Jofre so much then okay I guess we shouldnt sign any fullback

There is not a single LB on the market that would significantly improve our squad while Dumfries definitely would. Furthermore, Kounde can always switch back to CB position. On the left side we have Balde, a natural fullback, who could become a world class LB If he can finally stay injury-free this season. It's not like we have no one on that left side.
 

FinBarcelonafan

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Garcia is jack of all trades and master of none. He can't be trusted to be a permanent backup for one position. He is an all around we can throw as the last resort if no one else or we can give him few minutes here and there. If he plays regularly his cracks would start to show.

That's his best role. Give him minutes playing multiple different positions here and there, that's when he is used the best.
 

Raketa10

Senior Member
I'm also against his signing. Save the 25m for something else.

For what exactly? Fullback is the only thing we are missing. We are well covered in CB position, midfield and now attack. The only thing we'll need to change next season is CF and that will be expensive as hell. If we indeed want to sign Alvarez next summer, ATM could request 120+ mil for him.

Tell me one fullback on the market that represents a better deal than Dumfries for 25 mil? To clarify this, I am not implaying we should bench Kounde for this guy I am just saying that we need depth in that position if we plan to compete on all fronts.
 

Andresito

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For what exactly? Fullback is the only thing we are missing. We are well covered in CB position, midfield and now attack. The only thing we'll need to change next season is CF and that will be expensive as hell. If we indeed want to sign Alvarez next summer, ATM could request 120+ mil for him.

Tell me one fullback on the market that represents a better deal than Dumfries for 25 mil?
His clause is time limited so it's now or never.

What we can do with the money.
- Sign a LB, transfer window still open 5 weeks. Options might come up.
- Don't sign anyone if no good options available, sign someone in January or next season instead.
 

Raketa10

Senior Member
Can't see this happening.

They would rather buy grimaldo

Is Grimaldo on the market? Is Leverkusen even willing to sell? What is his price tag? We are now talking hypothetically about the player that Leverkusen isn't even selling right now. Furthermore, he is an injury prone player and would probably be unhappy with a substitute role.
 

jamrock

Senior Member
Is Grimaldo on the market? Is Leverkusen even willing to sell? What is his price tag? We are now talking hypothetically about the player that Leverkusen isn't even selling right now. Furthermore, he is an injury prone player and would probably be unhappy with a substitute role.

Dumfries wouldn't be happy with that role either

BL is a selling club, it the price is right they sell and he won't cost more than 25m
 

Raketa10

Senior Member
Dumfries wouldn't be happy with that role either

BL is a selling club, it the price is right they sell and he won't cost more than 25m

Balde is a world class potential who should be a stating LB for years to come. On the other side, Grimaldo is a 29y old LB who is also a Spanish NT player. I am not sure this would be a good idea as one of them would be hugely unhappy on the bench. Furthermore, Balde, if he stays injury free, for sure has a higher ceiling than Grimaldo. I personally would not go for Grimaldo, I'd rather search for a LB backup in La Masia. Ideally we should have a reliable full back backup who can play both on the right and left side and can cover both Kounde and Balde but I don't know if that's even possible to find.
 

Porque

Senior Member
We have no need in signing Dumfries for 25m.

Marc Pubill sale to AC Milan was mooted to be 8.5m + bonuses. That's cheap, if we are looking for a longer term option.
 

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