Champions League 2024-25

[vegitot]

No. I said people aren't ready to admit that a nobody like Gravenberch has been the best mid from August to January because Pedri has a huge reputation.

Ofcourse Pedri has been brilliant throughout the season and has that reputation for a reason. That's why I categorically stated that Gravenberch isn't anywhere near him overall.

Gravenberch was insane in the first half of the season. Facts.

And nowhere better than Pedri in that period. Fact.

 

[jamrock]

Again a proof you don't understand much about football.
There is nothing simple in what Flick is doing, and the 'straightforward' effect that you see is carefully designed, and does not result from everyone in the team playing 'straightforwatdly'

Everything is simple about that, that's we regularly concede 3 goals.

What the fuck are you talking about 😂

 

[Birdy]

Serious question

How would you rate the Wirtz-Macca-Gravenberch midfield on paper?

Do you rate it? I know we haven't seen it in action yet but..........

Offensively, they can form a juggernaut: possessional fluidity, control, penetration, and final pass/shot

Question-marks about the defensive aspect of things. Gravy does not have the defensive instincts, same for Wirtz/
Only Macca has shown he can do the work there

 

[Maradona37]

Gravenberch is good but Pedri is another level of ability.

 

[Birdy]

Everything is simple about that, that's we regularly concede 3 goals.

What the fuck are you talking about 😂

Ok, keep talking like a 15 yr old, and then expect people to take you seriously

 

[Jair Ventura]

Wonder what PSG can add to that team now.

It's pretty well rounded. Doped on pace all over.

I guess the "Doue" of midfield to make it 4 top quality to rotate

Right footed CB, coverage at both fullback positions, maybe a RW.

Fabrizio reporter yesterday that we've signed Franco Mastantuono

 

[El Flaco]

UEFA Champions League (unofficial) prize money rankings for season 2024/25

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[jamrock]

You know where every single play in flicks system will be for the entire 90 minutes of the game.

You know exactly how to score against them.

Just a matter of they will probably score more than you.

You know none of these things against PSG, you can't predict the players position and their is no one way to break them down.

 

[gasgas]

Ofcourse he could play for Barca and do well. That wasn't the point. He's class.

The point was that Ruiz Vitinha Neves midfield isn't as optimal for Flickball as Pedri FDJ Olmo at its best.

Olmo is quite redundant. What has he done for that midfield

I m rooting for a 4-3-3 next season

 

[Temptation]

There's a big difference between simple and direct.

Flickball is more direct, vertical and faster than Lucho.

Flick's wing play, the way he uses his CF and his midfield on the ball is very fascinating and fairly complex. The patterns of play are well defined and tend to be more progressive than PSG.

His pressing is also very well developed and intricate from top to bottom. The only thing that is fairly simple about Flickball is his counterpressing which is fairly straightforward and not as meticulously coached as Klopp's famous counterpress.

 

[Jair Ventura]

You forgot you are talking about PSG?

Unlimited funds. If there is something wrong with CBs, they can just get the best out there for ridiculous money and wages and they're set to go.

With so much money and such a good coach, so many unbelievable players that are pretty young... this PSG project can get scary.

I reckon they will be a serious force in Europe for the next few years

Remember it took City some time to click too then they were in semi finals every year and always contenders. And PSG is in a comedy league, they get it done in March and then go full force on the CL.

The damn has broken. If Paris F.C. builds a competent project they'll be in Europe within the next 5 seasons, and at the point the sky is the limit.

 

[Birdy]

You know none of these things against PSG, you can't predict the players position and their is no one way to break them down.

More BS...
You don't need to know the exact position of every player at any moment in time in order to contain them.
Liverpool did it for 60+ minutes, Arsenal did it for as long, Villa did it at the Villa park

 

[Birdy]

There's a big difference between simple and direct.

Elementary stuff that should not demand an explanation.
The quality of argumentation in here is quite low so often

 

[Temptation]

Olmo is quite redundant. What has he done for that midfield

I m rooting for a 4-3-3 next season

People are forgetting about Olmo because of his injuries.

His first touch to get out of trouble, inventive nature, final ball, vision and goalscoring instinct is top class.

Too reactionary.

 

[jamrock]

There's a big difference between simple and direct.

Flickball is more direct, vertical and faster than Lucho.

Flick's wing play, the way he uses his CF and his midfield on the ball is very fascinating and fairly complex. The patterns of play are well defined and tend to be more progressive than PSG.

His pressing is also very well developed and intricate from top to bottom. The only thing that is fairly simple about Flickball is his counterpressing which is fairly straightforward and not as meticulously coached as Klopp's famous counterpress.

It's direct, simple, hella fun to watch.

No on sits down and doesn't know how to score against flick, it's clear as day.

You know exactly where every single player will be for the full 90 minutes.

Counter pressing is nothing new, we've seen that for years.

It's simple, direct, brilliant football.

Now compare that to what Enrique is doing with his team.