25 - Wojciech Szczęsny

Loki

Well-known member
Everyone outside Barca fandom sees GK is our weakest spot and everyone thinks we leaked too many goals. Take it from there.
Yes, that's the case for decades. People said the same 15 years ago. "Pep's titles were miracles with such a bad GK like Valdes." And I told them the same thing I'm telling now. Barca's system is vulnerable to goalkeepers.
That doesn't mean MAtS isn't in a bad form right now, but many simply ignore the fact, that you always look worse on your own without proper support. Two years ago under Xavi, MAtS had 20 goals over the entire season conceded, the second best team had 33, but our attack looked like Getafe. Flick supports our attack and opens up our goal.
It's not always black and white, depending on the GK. Much depends on the playstyle as well. How many defenders came to Barca and said they had to learn completely new things they didn't consider playing for other teams? Barca's playstyle is unique, so it's not that easy to find suitable players.
 

Devils

Senior Member
I actually think it’s good news.

Peña is leaving so the club will bring in a new keeper.

Ter-Trashbag will be forced to leave the club when the club signs a new keeper because he won’t be a starter.

Trashbag will probably be 3rd choice keeper lol.

Never forget that Flick tossed him to the curb when he was managing Germany. Don’t be surprised at all if that is the case again.
 

Joan

Well-known member
Or the club analyses differently with way more knowledge and tools than the common fan. Barca's GK needs to have unique abilities, the same as our defensive line, as we're playing differently from 99% of other teams. What works for others doesn't work for us in may cases with many examples.
I'm confident Courtois wouldn't be half as good in Barca as he is in Madrid.
Systems change radically, yet advanced analysis shows our special needs Gk is always Mats.

Special needs indeed.

What about the basics? What about a retired keeper coming in, with no unique abilities whatsoever, yet outshines Mats? Because he’s better at the basics. Better shot stopper, better in the air, better at high claims.

Better protected Gks tend to do better, and being a Barca Gk is not an easy task, yet it’s one Mats sucks at.
 

Loki

Well-known member
yet outshines Mats?
Come on, this is bs and you know it. Only because he catches long crosses and corners more easily, he doesn't outshine him in an general performance.
Szczesny made so many horrible, game losing mistakes in this season, you'd crucify any other GK for them. But because we won titles and the hatred for MAtS, people tend to forgive them. Same as with Victor Valdes under Pep.

The fanbase rates MAtS completely unfairly. That doesn't mean Barca can't get a better GK, but it also doesn't justify all this stupid hate once for his CL performances in the last decade, with the whole team was embarassing in the CL season after season. Secondly for his last year under Xavi without titles. Yet the same people forget that MAtS had a record season the year before. But let me guess, it's not his merit, right? His mistakes are his, his success are because of other reasons? Typical biased opinions. A keeper's performance depends on the playstyle and the overall level of the team.

Under Flick, he didn't have a chance to play yet due to his injury. He has definitely earned the right to try. That doesn't mean the club shouldn't look for a new long term solution and set up a competion in the goal. That's two different things.

Every fanbase is the same, in failed seasons they seek an outlet ventile for their frustration and a goalkeeper, especially with our playstyle is an easy target. Before it was Frenkie who got all the hate, but then he got fit, used his chance and regained his status. Why do people want to deny it to MAtS? If he manages, good we have one problem less this season. If he fails, ok we need a new keeper. But he'll get his chance to prove himself under Flick.
 
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malvolio

Senior Member
The fanbase rates MAtS completely unfairly. That doesn't mean Barca can't get a better GK, but it also doesn't justify all this stupid hate once for his CL performances in the last decade, with the whole team was embarassing in the CL season after season.
Stop making sense bro, you'll upset the mob in here. :lol:
 

DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
The entire team excuse again.

That entire team is gone. More or less every single player from that era is gone.

Who is left standing? ter Stegen who was among the worst performers of those collapses.

So please tell me again why should we give him the pre-season and see how he does with Flick when we have moved on from the rest of the underperformers and washed players? 33 years old, multiple knee injuries and surgeries, and a constant underperformer, but we should keep giving him a chance?

The club should sign a new starter and tell him straight up he is a backup now if he want to stay and has to fight for the #2 spot with Tek. Then it's up to him.
 

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