Ernesto Valverde - V1

serghei

Senior Member
1. then why in 2008-2012 in clasicos we were winner before whistle? Cristiano, Kaka, Alonso, Benzema, Dimaria, by Pepe whom was 1 billion% better than Varane! by Casillas and etc. by Mourinho who was/is 1 billion % better than Zidane!!!???
2. 3. for me and base on our results is ;)


Madrid's current team is the best I've seen from them.

Marcelo, Carvajal, Modric, Kroos, Ramos and Ronaldo would probably start for us. 5 of those surely would.
 
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GetIn

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Over under on how many hair follicles he's going to lose and how many more wrinkles he's going to gain during his stint here?

Pep:

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Lucho:

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Well I think it's safe to say that if Valverde manages to hold this job down long enough to significantly age he will have been a great coach!
 
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xXKonan

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According to MD after touring the Barca Museum, Valverde and Robert along with Javier Bordas,Raúl Sanllehí and Valverde's agent Iñaki Ibáñez, had dinner together and for three hours discussed the up and downs and the squad the planning for this upcoming season.
 

GetIn

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According to MD after touring the Barca Museum, Valverde and Robert along with Javier Bordas,Raúl Sanllehí and Valverde's agent Iñaki Ibáñez, had dinner together and for three hours discussed the up and downs and the squad the planning for this upcoming season.

So they spent 3 hours discussing whether Gomes would be a better fit at DM or CM?
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Barcaman

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Calma calma. We're winning treble next year.

11:45 presentation
12:30 photo session
13:00 press conference
 

Messi983

Senior Member
Madrid's current team is the best I've seen from them.

Marcelo, Carvajal, Modric, Kroos, Ramos and Ronaldo would probably start for us. 5 of those surely would.

So that means you would still have at least half of the best possible XI from both clubs coming from Barça? RM best XI in general is clearly not superior to ours but of course they are better in certain positions (both FB and CM spots) and have a much better bench/depth that made the difference for them winning La Liga.

Anyway, from the players you mentioned first 4 would no doubt start for us but I wouldn't take Ramos over Pique-Umtiti (I just don't like his low football IQ and you can always count on him getting stupid cards; I'd prefer to sub him on in last 10-15 minutes if we'd need a winning goal ;)) and Ronaldo over Neymar/Suarez. Ronaldo is not a winger anymore so I would keep Neymar over him. On the other hand he's maybe the best finisher in the world and with Messi assisting him he'd probably score 100 goals every season but I think defense would struggle with both Messi and CR just walking on the field so I'd prefer Suarez because he at least runs his ass off in every game even if his finish is sometimes really off.

Maybe we could also argue about selecting Keylor over MATS but that depends mostly on who a coach would be and what system he would play. If he would stay closer to Barça style I'd keep MATS because of his superior passing skills but from a pure GK perspective Keylor is probably a bit better right now. But looks like still not good enough for RM so they want to replace him with De Gea again - and I think it will finally happen this summer.
 

serghei

Senior Member
So that means you would still have at least half of the best possible XI from both clubs coming from Barça? RM best XI in general is clearly not superior to ours but of course they are better in certain positions (both FB and CM spots) and have a much better bench/depth that made the difference for them winning La Liga.

Anyway, from the players you mentioned first 4 would no doubt start for us but I wouldn't take Ramos over Pique-Umtiti (I just don't like his low football IQ and you can always count on him getting stupid cards; I'd prefer to sub him on in last 10-15 minutes if we'd need a winning goal ;)) and Ronaldo over Neymar/Suarez. Ronaldo is not a winger anymore so I would keep Neymar over him. On the other hand he's maybe the best finisher in the world and with Messi assisting him he'd probably score 100 goals every season but I think defense would struggle with both Messi and CR just walking on the field so I'd prefer Suarez because he at least runs his ass off in every game even if his finish is sometimes really off.

Maybe we could also argue about selecting Keylor over MATS but that depends mostly on who a coach would be and what system he would play. If he would stay closer to Barça style I'd keep MATS because of his superior passing skills but from a pure GK perspective Keylor is probably a bit better right now. But looks like still not good enough for RM so they want to replace him with De Gea again - and I think it will finally happen this summer.

Messi, Neymar, Busquets and Pique would start for Madrid. The only question would be who should play at no9, either Cristiano Ronaldo or Suarez. Suarez scores more, but lately he is less efficient in the big games.


I would have it like that:

Carvajal - Pique - Ramos - Marcelo

Modric - Busquets - Kroos

Messi - Cristiano Ronaldo/Suarez - Neymar.

Either 5-5, or 6-4 Madrid. Not talking about GK.

Btw, bias aside, I would go for Ronaldo over Suarez.
 
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GetIn

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I don't know if this live stream's translation is correct or not but Valverde just said Messi "plays a bit too much on the wing sometimes". If this is what he said this basically confirms we'll be switching to the 4-2-3-1
 

Dan1983

Prediction champion 2012-2013
The thing scares me about Velverde is his mellow type of character. We were successful under 2 dictator type of coaches (Pep and Lucho) and unsuccessful under 2 mellow type(Tito and Tata) . It's very possible that he has strong character that is not so obvious, but if he's weak and cannot deal with likes of Pique and Neymar we are doomed for sure. Leadership as important as tactical skills. Anyways we should be patient with him and bury our pitchforks until at least February.:lucho:
Unsuccessful under Tito? Did you see how many points we ran away with the league?
 

AaronCarlos

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Which Players will you like to see at Camp Nou next season ? Thiago Alcantara, Marco Verratti for me are key, either one will be nice along with a RB.
 

xXKonan

Senior Member
Quotes from Valverde's press conference.

Valverde: "I'm so grateful to the board and president for giving me this privilege and choosing me as the coach."

V: "This comes with responsibility. I will give back the confidence you are giving me with this new project."

V: "I have my own ideas and projects for the upcoming season. I will thank you using them"

V: "I am coming from Bilbao which was my family and this decision was very tough. I had to close that stage of my life."

V: "I have a new commitment. I like to maintain my relationship with Bilbao and make new ones here."

V: "Just walking around the stadium and the bar is very high. Look at the trophy room. There is a lot of pressure."

V: "Coaches before me have set the bar too high. Luis Enrique, Pep, Cruyff, Tito."

V: "This is the biggest challenge in my career. All coaches before me worked with the Barça style. I know this"

V: "The fans know the style. I know it and I will adapt but my idea is to go even deeper with this style."

V: "I will continue progressing our style. We have a great style. We have GREAT players - Leo Messi and Iniesta."

V: "I want to create a team spirit that drives us. Be together in the good and bad moments. I want to excite the fans."

V: "I am here to develop all of this and work with everyone."

V: "Why come to Barça now? It's true. I've been asked before to come. There were other factors before."

V: "Coming now was my decision. I decided to close the chapter with Bilbao and I thought about ending it before Barcelona approached."

V: "Barça needed a coach. They asked me and I was ready. Coming here you either get everything or you get nothing."

V: "Leo Messi is the best player I have ever seen on the field. He surprises everyone every single match."

V: "If Leo can even improve anymore then I will try and help him."

V: "Biggest challenge? Constant pressure to win but I know this pressure. I know it's an obligation to get results."

V: "Maybe there are things I don't know yet but when the season starts I will get used to it."

V: "Your style? 4-3-3 or adapt to another? It's clear that I have to adapt to them. 4-3-3 has achieved a lot of results."

V: "Barça's style is team play built around midfielders and playing from the inside."

V: "The players know 4-3-3 well or 3-4-3. It depends on the players."

V: "We will adapt to all situations. Whatever is demanded. We will control the play and command."

V: "Same leadership as Lucho? Everyone is different. The position as coach is not the same as players. My position is to influence."

V: "I want to help the team grow. Make the team better. Every coach will express this in their own way"

V: "Iniesta renewal? It would be crazy if I talk about Iniesta before I speak to him. He is going to be an important player for me."

V: "He is important for the club and on the field. I will speak to him about this."

V: "I just got here. I've spoken with Robert and I know the team from a distance. You can't ask me about signings now."

V: "The market I experienced before is not the same. We will look at the market which is big here."

V: "I will speak to the team and board about signings."

V: "Barça B? I like to have my own first team and not interfere with the B team. Barça B players are close to making the first team."

V: "Barça B should move up to the 2nd division. I want to get those players ready to join the first team but I don't know yet."

V: "I will see which players in Barça B are evolving and ready to come to the first team."

V: "I am coming to Barça with 3 El Clasico's coming up. It's a big deal and motivation. The Super Cup is soon."

V: "I am going to try and win that super Cup. We all want it and we will plan for that."

V: "Control the superstars in locker room? The players get this "tag" when they have to achieve big things."

V: "These attitudes are necessary. I am looking for young players that want to win. We will get the best out of all the players"

V: "People talking about multi millionaire players? They weren't born with millions. They earned it."

Valverde: "Preseason? I have to think about my first day. I just got here but I will think about the upcoming games."

V: "We have to adapt quickly for preseason and Super Cup. Little time but we will be prepared."

V: "Trident? They have a big influence. We want to have consistency. We have objectives and motivated."

V: "There might be times when players are not good. But Cruyff used to say we need to be mentally prepared to win it all."

V: "Every coach here has been as conscious as I am. We have to keep the style but everyone has their own personal stamp."

V: "We can't be static. If we don't go up in play then we will go down."

V: "Neymar's privileges? Like what? He doesn't have any that I know of."

V: "Neymar gets extra holiday and stuff? No I don't know about any of that. There's no privileges for players."

V: "Luis Enrique is a great coach but I will try to improve from that. I don't want to get into what we will do different."

V: "Aleix Vidal or Sergi for RB? They're great players. I want to analyze. I've seen Sergi play in that position he is very versatile."

V: "Sergi can play in any position. He is a good player to have."

V: "Demand of winning titles? Most important demands is the one in front of me. There's a lot of pressure."

V: "I've been waiting for this challenge. I have a lot of confidence in what I will be doing."

V: "Don't rely on MSN too much? Barça is about team work and combination of players. More focus is needed on defense."

V: "MSN carries weight in this team but there should be more team work than just relying on them."

V: "Do we need 3 GK's and alternate GK? Well. I will take the decisions when I see who the GK's are. We need backup GK's."

V: "I may turn to Barca B to fill positions."

V: "I will still decide my starting GK and alternations for which games."

V: "Suarez? He can score a lot of goals and assist. Very important player. He can stay in the area and appear anywhere."

V: "La Liga? They didn't win this year. They won super copa and CDR. Luis Enrique won titles every season. Never went trophyless."

V: "Treble? I know you guys want everything every year but remember we can't win it all every year."

V: "Next season we will try to win everything.."

V: "Worked under Cruyff so I know the style? I like that Barça achieves things through its play. Don't speculate about games."

V: "We don't wait for other teams to make mistakes. We have objectives and we will get it."

V: "Barça's play has success and everyone knows it worldwide. I love their play and I know it very well."

V: "When Barça put pressure the other teams can't even breath. I've experienced it against them with Bilbao. They are too good."

V: "It was good to win against Barça for the Super Cup because it's very hard to beat them"

V: "The media coverage here is incredible. Questions can become huge. I know what's it like in the media.

V: "All defeats will be on me. I know I have a big responsibility and I'm ready for the blame."

V: "Who influences me? Cruyff and some others. I had him as a coach. All the coaches here worked hard."

V: "I know Pep and Luis Enrique's style. I have seen what they did here and I want to build on both their ideas and build my own."

V: "Possible for Leo to improve? He is a decisive player in any position. One thing is to see him from the other side and other to..

V: "To train him is different. To see him in the inside. I've never coaches a player of his calibar."

V: "Messi has been going too far on the wing. But I will study his best position and see if he can improve."

V: "Worried Messi didn't Renew yet? The info that I have is that he will soon and it will happen. Leo is happy here."

V: "I'm optimistic that Leo's renewal will happen soon."

V: "Rivalry with Espanyol? There's nothing I can say. I was a player and coach there. It's my past and I'm proud."

V: "I am a professional. Whatever team I coach I will do my best there."

V: "Luis Enrique criticized for not using Barça's play? It's a tough situation as a coach."

V: "There's a lot of criticism. We can't do everything right. Someone will always be criticizing us. It's part of being the coach."

V: "I don't think Luis Enrique's era was bad. I don't think he moved too far away from the Barça style. The style was still there."

V: "Olympiacos was incredible for me. I loved it there and my memories was great. I don't know if I will go back there."

V: "I will have to see what gives me results and get rid of the play that creates doubt. There's a lot of difficulties inherited."

V: "Why take this offer? I talked about this. I had the chance to coach this team before. I didn't know I would get this chance again."

V: "I will never regret the decisions I made. Coaching Valencia, Bilbao, leaving Bilbao, coming here."

V: "I have received offers from other teams. Last week Saturday I knew Barça was interested and I told my agent that I would accept."

V: "I spoke to Robert for the first time on Monday. And now we are here."

https://twitter.com/FCNazalona for covering the press conference.
 

Devils

Senior Member
He's a humble and soft-spoken guy, which is nice.

But I hope he is more hellish behind the scenes. No room for the complacency we had this past season to extend to the next.
 

Barcaman

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Thanx for the quoteds [MENTION=19222]xXKonan[/MENTION].

He said he will adapt to 4-3-3 and then later says Messi plays too far on the wing.
Confusing.
 

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