Martin Odegaard

Kohe321

New member
And of course, all that is only true if he goes to RM.

I forgot Ajax and other big clubs bare RM are located in norway.

Hahaha. In before arguments like "Dutch sounds more Norwegian than Spanish" begin. :lol:

And you're right by the way, Barca is very close to where I live, and my dad grew up very close to the Allianz Arena here in Norway. If only Martin knew, he could be spared so much homesickness...

Some news:

Only announcement left to be made, clubs have apparently reached an agreement. Stromsgodset could get upwards of 7m euros for him according to latest rumors. Pretty sick for a small Norwegian club.

VG made an english version of the news as this story has many international followers. Check it here:

http://www.vg.no/sport/martin-oedeg...agreed-a-fee-for-martin-oedegaard/a/23377492/
 
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DonAndres

Wild Man of Borneo
Tbh I think he should move to Bayern. Bayern probably have the best club infrastructure in football. Look at who they've produced in their team: Muller, Alaba, Schweinsteiger, Lahm, Kroos, Badstuber, etc. Their coaching staff is superb (Pep at helm of a very efficient coaching system), the executive structure is stable (100% unlike Barca), and they're well equipped to handle injuries with Müller-Wohlfahrt. They seem to have a great loaning pool in the Bundesliga that yields success (both Lahm and Kroos left on loan and came back to do well at the club). I'd think that Germany would be easier for him to adapt to culturally than Spain or England too.

There are plenty of footballing options for him at Bayern. Idk if he'd go to the B team or 1st team immediately (Bayern Munich II is in the 4th division, which is probably below his weights) but he'll learn plenty in training with recent World Champions and treble winners in the squad not to mention a revolutionary coach that'll hone his individual skills like he's done with other talents. If he wants more playing time, he can get a good loan in the Buli where teams generally play good football and young talents flourish. When he's actually cementing a spot in the first team there are a variety of positions available for him. Given his profile as a player he could be seen as a replacement for the aging Ribery or Robben, fight for a midfield position, etc. If Pep stays at Bayern for a longer period of time he'll probably be worked into some funky hybrid formation in a free role. He's not stuck in a pecking order situation behind Galacticos where sink or swim is pretty much the only option. Bayern is a challenge of course, a huge one. But if he wants to find a home at a very stable and powerful European club where he can make a pretty big name for himself and transition well into senior football, Bayern seems to be the best bet.

I know I'll probably be cast as a "traitor" or "Bayern lover" for saying this btw :lol:. I just can't see how Barca could be the best place for him, objectively speaking. Yes we have pedigree and some appealing factors (Messi, Nerman, Xavi, etc. mostly) but our club infrastructure is in chaos right now, we have no sporting director, and even with recent developments our coaching situation is not perfectly stable. Not to mention the transfer ban and the fact that he'd be stuck under Eusebio in the B team 1 year from now.
 
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Bertus

New member
Some news:

Only announcement left to be made, clubs have apparently reached an agreement. Stromsgodset could get upwards of 7m euros for him according to latest rumors. Pretty sick for a small Norwegian club.

VG made an english version of the news as this story has many international followers. Check it here:

http://www.vg.no/sport/martin-oedeg...agreed-a-fee-for-martin-oedegaard/a/23377492/
Nice if it's really 7M.

Since it's almost done, let's wish him good luck. Hope to hear about him soon.

I wasn't following Zidane's team, now I've got a reason.
 

Luftstalag14

Culé de Celestial Empire
Tbh I think he should move to Bayern. Bayern probably have the best club infrastructure in football. Look at who they've produced in their team: Muller, Alaba, Schweinsteiger, Lahm, Kroos, Badstuber, etc. Their coaching staff is superb (Pep at helm of a very efficient coaching system), the executive structure is stable (100% unlike Barca), and they're well equipped to handle injuries with Müller-Wohlfahrt. They seem to have a great loaning pool in the Bundesliga that yields success (both Lahm and Kroos left on loan and came back to do well at the club). I'd think that Germany would be easier for him to adapt to culturally than Spain or England too.

There are plenty of footballing options for him at Bayern. Idk if he'd go to the B team or 1st team immediately (Bayern Munich II is in the 4th division, which is probably below his weights) but he'll learn plenty in training with recent World Champions and treble winners in the squad not to mention a revolutionary coach that'll hone his individual skills like he's done with other talents. If he wants more playing time, he can get a good loan in the Buli where teams generally play good football and young talents flourish. When he's actually cementing a spot in the first team there are a variety of positions available for him. Given his profile as a player he could be seen as a replacement for the aging Ribery or Robben, fight for a midfield position, etc. If Pep stays at Bayern for a longer period of time he'll probably be worked into some funky hybrid formation in a free role. He's not stuck in a pecking order situation behind Galacticos where sink or swim is pretty much the only option. Bayern is a challenge of course, a huge one. But if he wants to find a home at a very stable and powerful European club where he can make a pretty big name for himself and transition well into senior football, Bayern seems to be the best bet.

I know I'll probably be cast as a "traitor" or "Bayern lover" for saying this btw :lol:. I just can't see how Barca could be the best place for him, objectively speaking. Yes we have pedigree and some appealing factors (Messi, Nerman, Xavi, etc. mostly) but our club infrastructure is in chaos right now, we have no sporting director, and even with recent developments our coaching situation is not perfectly stable. Not to mention the transfer ban and the fact that he'd be stuck under Eusebio in the B team 1 year from now.

Don, we know your heart left for Bayern when your true love Thiago left. ;)
 

DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
Hahaha. In before arguments like "Dutch sounds more Norwegian than Spanish" begin. :lol:

And you're right by the way, Barca is very close to where I live, and my dad grew up very close to the Allianz Arena here in Norway. If only Martin knew, he could be spared so much homesickness...

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Some news:

Only announcement left to be made, clubs have apparently reached an agreement. Stromsgodset could get upwards of 7m euros for him according to latest rumors. Pretty sick for a small Norwegian club.

VG made an english version of the news as this story has many international followers. Check it here:

http://www.vg.no/sport/martin-oedeg...agreed-a-fee-for-martin-oedegaard/a/23377492/

Didnt Molde get 3m pounds for Mame Biram Diouf? :lol:
 
Stupid sarcasm is always welcomed.

Of course Its true not only in Madrid, but also munchen, Manchester,London and so on. The psychological factor is immensily underrated.

There are details though. Culture wise an english club would be the best thing. He knows the language, he support Liverpool, he Will easily adapt. Spain is further away and Madrid is a bigger club with more competition where Its easy to "Get lost". He Will always know that brilliant players have failed before him and that Its a long way to the top. Thats not neccessarily a good thing for a 16 year old. Ajax is also close. The citys people are educated and communicates well, the club culture is outstanding and he Will Get first team experience. CL and dutch league. And he Will actually play a lot. Remember, this guy has played three matches for norway, not germany. Instead of the tough transformation from norway to Madrid, he succeds in the ajax system - pretty fast and against good opponents.

One false move my friend
 

DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
The cockiness, the high horse routine and standard statements along the lines of "how many products play for you now" or "how many Messis and Iniestas have you produced" that reflect utter foolishness... This is on of the reasons why sticking around for too long is unbearable nowadays for me and many others.

Maybe you should listen to your Kohe buddy who understands the facts and the situation? Maybe you should consider different scenarios a 16(!) year old can go through in the next 5 years of development? Maybe he's joining Castilla for 2 years to develop under some of the best staff available, then getting sold with buyback to a better club where he can establish himself in Europe, then maybe getting bought back if he shows enough promise and dedication? It's the simple business model that you don't seem to comprehend and a sequence of events that Madrid applies to majority of their prospects nowadays. Not everyone makes it back, which is normal, some do some don't. If they don't, money was made off of them, and they got a few years of experience in a top academy, which is also very valuable - look at those I mentioned earlier. Terrible academy after all.

Good CAREER move.

Ah... The cockiness, the high horse routine and those standard statements.... And utter foolishness. If anything then the what I've not done is displaying those things. Besides, humans are boring, so maybe that's why it becomes unbearable for you to stay here for long :pep:

All jokes aside, there are many good posters here and good discussions too(without all that stuff) along with random rants all the time.

We can agree to disagree. Listen, I'm not wanting him to do badly because he rejected Barca, Bayern and others(And I didn't even want him at Barca), I just wanted him to make the best choice for his development to a potential top class player. I don't think Real Madrid is the right place for that, your track record is not really awesome, I think even you can acknowledge that.

A 16 year old can indeed go through different scenarios in the next 5 years. I just think he would be better off at a place where his time would be spent nurturing his talent and being focused on fully by the best people in the business, people who know their stuff and how to handle young, talented players.

Good career move? Well, if the point is to follow a high risk, but also a bigger gain(financial) model then maybe that's right. He'll make much more money than he for example would do at Ajax. If he doesn't make it at Real Madrid with your business model then he can always move to a smaller club with all the money he has. No problem I guess.

Anyway, I wish him all the best at Real Madrid(according to a MARCA journo he'll join Castilla anyway) and would want him to succeed so that he can lead the attack in the national team. There's another thing that I don't think this is a very wise career move at all.
 
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Luftstalag14

Culé de Celestial Empire
Him joining Castilla makes much more sense than their first team. Joining any first team from any of Europe's elite teams makes no sense.
 

DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
Him joining Castilla makes much more sense than their first team. Joining any first team from any of Europe's elite teams makes no sense.

Local paper in Drammen saying he'll be with them until summer and then be a part of the 1st team from next season, something his father has been adamant about. Some MARCA journo saying he'll be with them(Castilla) until he's atleast around 19 or so.
 

Bertus

New member
Hahaha. In before arguments like "Dutch sounds more Norwegian than Spanish" begin. :lol:

And you're right by the way, Barca is very close to where I live, and my dad grew up very close to the Allianz Arena here in Norway. If only Martin knew, he could be spared so much homesickness...
Shaddap you uneducated spaniard.

And how come you know how to use internet to communicate? People in Spain don't have internet.
 
You are Addressing the least relevant point of course. Principle of charity. A rule in argumentation theory. Look it up and start practising. Maybe you Will come up with an interesting claim one day. Good luck.
 

Chong Li

New member
According to reports he will earn 2,25M per year, contract till 2018.

And his dad said it wasn't all about money? yeah right...
 

BBZ8800

Senior Member
We were so lucky when we "found" Messi out of nowhere and we have built our best ever generation around Messi.
If we haven't found Messi, who knows if we would have won 3 CLs in the last few years.

Anyway, if Odegaard turns out into a world class player similar to Messi and CR, we are in huge problems.

Also, some people are saying things like: he is ruined in Real, he should have came to Barca.
People forget that the myth about La Masia was built during 2006-2010.
When I watched Barca's matches in 1998 or in 2002, no one was ever saying anything about La Masia. It was the same average youth academy, like any other in the world.

So, it is not true that we always had the best academy in the world, and that other academies are a crap, and that other players will rotten in other teams.
For example, around 2000', Real had Raul, Casillas, Guti and Pavon from their youth academy, and they won 3 Cls in 5 years with those players.

In those years, we produced only 2-3 players in 10+ years (Xavi and Puyol, and Guardiola looong before that) and 1000s of players like Oscar Garcia, Roger Garcia, De la Pena, Celades and similar who were good players, but not good enough for Barcelona.

So, it can all change in a couple of Seasons.
We can easily again turn into an average youth academy, the same we were for 15 years before Pep's era.
And Real can easily turn into "a new Barcelona" with 2-3 good Spanish players and one superstar in Odegaard.

And honestly, seeing the level of our youth players in the last few years (Tello, Cuenca, Deulo, Sandro, Munir, Adama, Halilovic), it is more likely that we will return to the times when we had just a normal/average youth academy, like any other top team.
Academy that will produce a good player in 2-3 years and that's it.
More or less, any better european team produces a one decent domestic talent once in a 2-3-4 years, isn't it?
(Except Real Madrid in the last 10-ish Seasons). But don't be fooled by that.

Real can also get lucky with a few players like Raul, Casillas and Guti, the same as we were with Xavi, Messi, Iniesta, Busquets in one era.

Anyway, I am very sad because Odegaard is joining Real.
I would give all of our youths for him (Deulo, Adama, Halil, Sandro, Lee etc).
 
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