Paulinho

*the picture, not Lutece's post, poor timing*

JamDav1982 said:

https://www.lequipe.fr/Football/Act...com/showthread.php/14060-Moneymar-Jr/page1006

PSG is doing very well, but will have to sell players by June 30 if he does not want to be in big trouble next season. The current accounting year (2017-2018), with the huge expenditures made on Neymar (222 million euros) and Mbappé (145 million euros + 35 million bonuses) has not been taken into account by the ICFC, which reviewed the three precedents. But it will be in August, forcing the PSG to cash 60 million euros in the transfer market if he does not want to be in the eye of the storm again.

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Thanks. While this article is helpful, it doesn't go into much detail tbf. It's still vague.

For example, I've came across these articles which for me make sense because otherwise they would just announce the outright buying of Mbappe and not the act of a free loan for a year.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/bobbym...comply-with-financial-fair-play/#4a72278f4177

There is, one other possible tweak and it involves a season-long loan of the player by Monaco to PSG.

PSG would be on the hook for Mbappe's wages but would not have to book the amortized portion of the transfer fee in the 2017/18 financial statements.

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https://www.esquireglobalcrossings....fer-policy-financial-doping-or-market-forces/

The above figures are not amortised but reflect the total transfer fees agreed in each season. Mbappe has not been included for 2017/18 because he is a loan for this season with an option to buy (some reports suggest this is a put option by Monaco to force PSG to buy at the agreed price). The amortisation of Mbappe’s transfer fee is over the life of his five year contract with the first payments commencing during the 2018/19 season.

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https://psgtalk.com/2017/09/everything-need-know-psg-financial-fair-play/

n the case of Kylian Mbappé, it was widely confirmed that the deal was a one-year loan with an obligation to buy in 2018-19, something clubs often do to avoid having too much spending every year (ex: James Rodriguez to FC Bayern Munich and Juan Cuadrado to Juventus FC). Multiple sources have confirmed that this is a totally legitimate practice and that PSG will not be sanctioned specifically for the Mbappé deal. Furthermore, considering the CFCB only take yearly salary and paid bonuses into account, Mbappé’s official 2017-18 fee will probably settle around €30 million.

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This last article is done by a PSG cheerleader by the way. Yes, some of the expenses for Mbappe will be included in the 2017/2018 financial year but those are only his wages and bonuses that he received. The transfer fee of 180m will begin being amortized from the next financial year.

Anyway, my point wasn't that PSG did something illegal or anything, just that this loan with option/mandatory to buy is just a loophole to the rules of FFP. Yeah, sure, PSG will sell players, sign overvalued sponsorships with another Qatar foundation over the next years and they will balance the books in the end. It's not PSGs or any others club fault, it's UEFA and the poorly constructed FFP regulations that regulate exactly bupkis.

Apparently the Chinese federation has stricter regulations and doesn't allow the same loopholes when it's clear as day why they are done. Yet!

Lutece FC said:

you're right but people wants to open the shitbox which is their mouth...

Paris respected all the rules, if there is corruption, it's more the pressure put by old clubs on UEFA

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If you'd read more carefully, you'd know that nobody accused PSG of wrongdoings you utter moron. It's UEFA that is a shithole of an organization.

Sorin - look at the date of the articles.

It was assumed last year that PSG were going to count Mbappe fee from 2018/19 but that did not happen and full fee was included in 2017/18.

FFP does have restrictions to using mandatory purchase from loans and if seen to do it then the years it is included in is adjusted.

I'm aware but then why the loan with option to buy? What is the reason for this action and not declare the full transfer from the get go? Why the same deals for James R and Cuadrado?

dodged a bullet in the end. paulinho wasn't the type of player for us and we didn't lose money on the transfer.

now let's get to business and build a squad that can win the CL.

Lutece FC said:

you're right but people wants to open the shitbox which is their mouth...

Paris respected all the rules, if there is corruption, it's more the pressure put by old clubs on UEFA

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The issue is your shady sponsorship deals that invest money above what PSG should realistically get given their moderate brand.

Loan? What the fuck is wrong with our board?

Trafalgar said:

Loan? What the fuck is wrong with our board?

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They have just gotten 50M € for a player, who everybody loves to shit on, even though he helped us quite a few times during the season.
He also had some bad games, and his style is not the best fit, so all in all great to let him go now..

..Anyway, that is what's *wrong* with our board

BarçaBarça said:

They have just gotten 50M € for a player, who everybody loves to shit on, even though he helped us quite a few times during the season.
He also had some bad games, and his style is not the best fit, so all in all great to let him go now..

..Anyway, that is what's *wrong* with our board

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No chance they will end up paying 50m for him after a year , you are deluded.

Raki13 said:

No chance they will end up paying 50m for him after a year , you are deluded.

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Want to bet a silly profile pic? Loser has to have (a happy) Paulinho-pic for half a year?
I'm quite sure they will pay already this January, so I'm happy to do it.

BarçaBarça said:

Want to bet a silly profile pic? Loser has to have (a happy) Paulinho-pic for half a year?
I'm quite sure they will pay already this January, so I'm happy to do it.

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Gladly , not a chance we are getting anywhere near that after a year.

Why would we loan him there without getting money? Its not like he needs minutes like Rafinha or is useless like Arda/Douglas. Obviously there has to be a reason and that reason is money.

Just chill, they will pay. Even our board wouldn't do something like that otherwise, just because its published as option doesn't mean the deal can't be already done for winter.

MTL_Barca said:

Why would we loan him there without getting money? Its not like he needs minutes like Rafinha or is useless like Arda/Douglas. Obviously there has to be a reason and that reason is money.

Just chill, they will pay. Even our board wouldn't do something like that otherwise, just because its published as option doesn't mean the deal can't be already done for winter.

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This reminds me of Jerry Maguire film when Team Cushman had betrayed Jerry for Sugar. Jerry said: I'm still sort of moved by your "My word is stronger than oak" thing.

Raki13 said:

Gladly , not a chance we are getting anywhere near that after a year.

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Alright boys looks like it's official.

To the siggy we go.