A top club that tells a coach 'win now' without consideration of the context and the relative strength of the squad and the opposition is a toxic place.
Uh no, disagree, depends on the side
We don't know what they've been telling their managers. The offense is newly assembled in almost its entirety, not to mention defense which has only had an old CB and a new keeper come in. If you assume some reason, they're very unlikely telling them 'win now'. Realistic expectation is top4 + title challenge if ambitious and performing above expectations, but not grounds for disappointment if not achieved. Sackings may attest to the contrary but also kind of poor character judgement. Similar to United. If anything such pressure is more expected at Spurs where squad is not new and wants a title before they likely disperse and move on for new challenge. Even though they're some distance behind Liverpool and turns out even City in the league + several other teams better than them in cups. And Spurs were not doing a 'toxic' thing to put such expectation on Mourinho.
The days of 'instant success' of a new coach are long gone by. And when I say succes I don't mean win a cup by putting together a string of decent games and some luck.
Success that has some lasting effect needs significant preparatory period.
Again not necessarily they arent. And why is a cup win not success? Depends which team. Also define 'instant'. To stick with the earlier example, as of before kick-off vs Wycombe today, Mourinho is fighting on 4 fronts (if you include Carabao) after 6 months of mediocrity and really very good autumn in 20/21. They're considered one of the heavy favourites for Europa along with United and maybe Milan. After 1 year in a job.
Lampard only had 4-5 months more than Jose, arguably did well to secure top4 and arguably unjustly sacked tho there are clearly reasons for why their plan failed. He has a fair share of the blame as he has repeatedly proven he thinks every player should react and think like he would back in his hayday. Which is a rookie manager error really. But until more evidence comes to light, we don't know just how deep Chelsea issues are rooted. I suspect in some ways it's similar to Madrid - lack of leaders, politics..
