Real Madrid

Financially Real Madrid IS very well run though.

Every team has players who turned out to be flops (Jovic yes, Hazard perhaps but too early to say anything about their Brazilian players yet), but the fact of the matter is (1) transfer-wise the only player they spent relatively big money on is Hazard and they have sold very well, certainly compared to us (2) wage-wise they have much lower wages than us and (3) they have a lot less debt than us and they have secured funding with very low interest rate and they have actually started revamping Bernaneu already while ours is still on paper for the most part (aside from Estadi Johan Cruyff which was completed).

Wolfe said:

Who said it wasn't?

How much worse was yours after if a team you present as being this shit has beaten Barca?



Putting in a lot of effort into this troll aren't you



Depends who it is you hear it from and with regards to what. Financially it is very well run with few bad decisions as per club accounts.

Anything Real fans say now is going to be mostly nonsense. I met some people yesterday calling for an immediate sack and that Zidane accomplished nothing in his 2nd tenure.

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And it is nonsense because you do not agree with what they said?

kattanib said:

And it is nonsense because you do not agree with what they said?

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No, it is nonsense because they don't back up what they said.

Luftstalag14 said:

Financially Real Madrid IS very well run though.

Every team has players who turned out to be flops (Jovic yes, Hazard perhaps but too early to say anything about their Brazilian players yet), but the fact of the matter is (1) transfer-wise the only player they spent relatively big money on is Hazard and they have sold very well, certainly compared to us (2) wage-wise they have much lower wages than us and (3) they have a lot less debt than us and they have secured funding with very low interest rate and they have actually started revamping Bernaneu already while ours is still on paper for the most part (aside from Estadi Johan Cruyff which was completed).

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Sad but true

Luftstalag14 said:

Financially Real Madrid IS very well run though.

Every team has players who turned out to be flops (Jovic yes, Hazard perhaps but too early to say anything about their Brazilian players yet), but the fact of the matter is (1) transfer-wise the only player they spent relatively big money on is Hazard and they have sold very well, certainly compared to us (2) wage-wise they have much lower wages than us and (3) they have a lot less debt than us and they have secured funding with very low interest rate and they have actually started revamping Bernaneu already while ours is still on paper for the most part (aside from Estadi Johan Cruyff which was completed).

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Who is the last great sale Real made?

This gets trotted out all the time and yet again after a summer where they could get nothing for Bale, nothing for James and about 5m more for Hakimi than Barca got for a flop like Semedo.

Barca making some poor choices in transfermarket does not make Real some huge success.

They previous two summers to this they have spent around 450m... and have had one player that has contributed to first team level that should be expected at Real in Courtois.

They also have one of the largest wage bills going in the world and have two last 16 exits in CL and struggling to get out of group.

All that and folk still try to make out they are 'well run' in recent years.

Real are in a state they should not be in as are Barca. Due to poor management past few years.

JamDav1982 said:

Who is the last great sale Real made?

This gets trotted out all the time and yet again after a summer where they could get nothing for Bale, nothing for James and about 5m more for Hakimi than Barca got for a flop like Semedo.

Barca making some poor choices in transfermarket does not make Real some huge success.

They previous two summers to this they have spent around 450m... and have had one player that has contributed to first team level that should be expected at Real in Courtois.

They also have one of the largest wage bills going in the world and have two last 16 exits in CL and struggling to get out of group.

All that and folk still try to make out they are 'well run' in recent years.

Real are in a state they should not be in as are Barca. Due to poor management past few years.

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Wasn't Hakimi sold for 40m already? That is a lot in the age of COVID-19. Reguilon for 30m is not bad either. Last year Kovacic for 45m and RDT for 20m. If you think all of these are peanuts (I don't recall when was the last time we sold anybody more than 40m), how about Ronaldo? He was sold for 117m. These are all great sales compared to the players we let go for truly peanuts. Also, they didn't get nothing from Bale and James, they sent them on loan so they didn't have to pay their big wages, plus they might even get Tottenham and Everton to pay a loan fee.

Look, nobody is arguing each every transfer Real Madrid had worked out for them, of course not, of of course they have their shares of blunders and failures but they are not in a bad place at all financially. Of course their wage bill is one of the largest, after all they are one of the biggest clubs in the world. Even Bayern's wage bills are not as small as some think, that is the price big clubs have to pay to attract players.

Again, I am not here to argue sporting-wise how successful or not Real Madrid is, I am saying financially they are very well run.

Don't think Jammy cares enough to define 'great' sales considering pre-CR our highest sale was Ozil for 45(?)

We're not a selling club. But when we do sell, we sell pretty well. Most teams wouldn't get anywhere near 20 for a guy like Theo Hernandez after the seasons he's had.
Which is of course cancelled out by the losses made when terrible contracts that can't be moved on are given out (James, Bale). But that's another matter.

Wolfe said:

Don't think Jammy cares enough to define 'great' sales considering pre-CR our highest sale was Ozil for 45(?)

We're not a selling club. But when we do sell, we sell pretty well. Most teams wouldn't get anywhere near 20 for a guy like Theo Hernandez after the seasons he's had.

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Hernandez for 20m was no great sale and he is showing it now and his value is on him before he joined Real as well.

Real sold Di Maria for more than Ozil did they not?

As I said couldnt sell Bale or James and got 5m more for Hakimi than Semedo.

Great stuff.

They did. My bad.

Should probably have held out for more with Hakimi but Inter likely couldn't afford more.

Selling for more than 20 to the Premier League isn't really a feat these days either.

Wolfe said:

They did. My bad.

Should probably have held out for more with Hakimi but Inter likely couldn't afford more.

Selling for more than 20 to the Premier League isn't really a feat these days either.

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Should have sold Bale and James there for decent money then.

There is no great secret to clubs selling players and it is more driven by how much interest there is out there in them.

Real have not been great sellers in recent seasons. Any more so than other clubs.

JamDav1982 said:

Should have sold Bale and James there for decent money then.

There is no great secret to clubs selling players and it is more driven by how much interest there is out there in them.

Real have not been great sellers in recent seasons. Any more so than other clubs.

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Should have. But only had few opportunities and the players didn't make it easy, because they preferred sitting on bigger cash they got off Perez. United only came for Bale in 2018 AFAIK, not even known what they offered and if Bale wanted to go at the time since he keeps repeating how cozy and comfy Madrid is. Bale loan, I think it was a loan, to China being blocked last year was strange and James didn't agree to go Napoli either. So it's not like could have done more once damage was done by giving them the contract in the first place.

Other than that most straightforward sales were done pretty well.

Wolfe said:

Should have. But only had few opportunities and the players didn't make it easy, because they preferred sitting on bigger cash they got off Perez. United only came for Bale in 2018 AFAIK, not even known what they offered and if Bale wanted to go at the time since he keeps repeating how cozy and comfy Madrid is. Bale loan, I think it was a loan, to China being blocked last year was strange and James didn't agree to go Napoli either. So it's not like could have done more once damage was done by giving them the contract in the first place.

Other than that most straightforward sales were done pretty well.

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Players not making it easy is what clubs often face and example how less power lies with selling club than is made out.

There is nothing great about Reals sales in recent seasons in comparison to even Barca. It is another myth.

Efficiency of getting them done is something many would envy. Good business.

Wolfe said:

Efficiency of getting them done is something many would envy. Good business.

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Efficiency of what deals?

What deals should Barca envy in comparison?

Bale and James were drawn out for years and Real lost a heap on wages by pulling out of letting him go to China. Not really efficient.

De Tomas, Kovacic (getting it done despite looming Chelsea ban), Llorente (after barely having played half a season for Real in 2 years prior), Danilo (after being a garbage RB option for RM), Mariano original sale to Lyon despite not having played like 5 games for Real first team?

Dunno what Barca could envy, maybe getting money for Cristiano rather than letting him go for free like you will with Leo despite investing far too much club cash in the 'we must use Messi while he's here' project. But they do do pretty well selling shite players to those who are willing to pay more than they're really worth in the EPL.