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hulinat

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JamDav1982 said:
Nah I got that you moved onto another argument after others kept being proved wrong.
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Proved wrong my ass.

The point was that Munir and Sandro should have been given more time to develope before being rushed into the the 1st team which they were not ready. The board reacted to this by making a completely innecessary and stupid move by signing Paco who was 2 years older than them and had already had some experience in the league. What we needed was a temporary short term backup striker to give Munir and Sandro time to develop.

Now if that had gone through there wouldnt be Paco and it would of been Sandro banging those 15 goals in a Barca shirt last season.
 
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JamDav1982

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Joppe said:
Proved wrong my ass.

The point was that Munir and Sandro should have been given more time to develope before being rushed into the the 1st team which they were not ready. The board reacted to this by making a completely innecessary and stupid move by signing Paco who was 2 years older than them and had already had some experience in the league. What we needed was a temporary short term backup striker to give Munir and Sandro time to develop.

Now if that had gone through there wouldnt be Paco and it would of been Sandro banging those 15 goals in a Barca shirt last season.
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You were wrong on Munir having a good season as a striker at Valencia and wrong about Munir getting 'tiny minutes' which sapped his confidence in comparison to '30m signing Paco'.

Just more made up rubbish saying Sandro would have been scoring 15 goals for Barca.
 
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hulinat

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JamDav1982 said:
You were wrong on Munir having a good season as a striker at Valencia and wrong about Munir getting 'tiny minutes' which sapped his confidence in comparison to '30m signing Paco'.

Just more made up rubbish saying Sandro would have been scoring 15 goals for Barca.
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Valencia is a complete fucking mess and not even Gaya or Parejo had a good season, so if you take those things into consideration then Munir had a pretty amazing season.

Sandro could have easily scored that amount of goals or even more especially if he had been fed balls left and right by Neymar and Messi like theyre doing with Paco cus hes an expensive player and without his few tap in goals last season he would have been considered as a complete failure and worst signing of the year by the media.

Sandro>>>>>>>Paquito.
 
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JamDav1982

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Joppe said:
Valencia is a complete fucking mess and not even Gaya or Parejo had a good season, so if you take those things into consideration then Munir had a pretty amazing season.

Sandro could have easily scored that amount of goals or even more especially if he had been fed balls left and right by Neymar and Messi like theyre doing with Paco cus hes an expensive player and without his few tap in goals last season he would have been considered as a complete failure and worst signing of the year by the media.

Sandro>>>>>>>Paquito.
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Valencia were arguably a bigger mess season before when Paco was better.

Parejo is bang average doesnt mean anything.

Munir never had anything like an amazing season and certainly not as a striker. Munir was bang average and too weak to play as a striker.

Sandro played 20 odd games the season before and only scored a hat trick in the cup against a lower league side. He never showed anything to be given a chance as back up this season.

Paco scored couple winners towards end of season and neither were tap ins. Chipped in with a few assists as well.

Latest excuse that others fed him as a 30m signing might be worst yet.

Anyway. Just going to add you to ignore list as arguments are so bad it feels like trolling.
 
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hulinat

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JamDav1982 said:
Valencia were arguably a bigger mess season before when Paco was better.

Parejo is bang average doesnt mean anything.

Munir never had anything like an amazing season and certainly not as a striker. Munir was bang average and too weak to play as a striker.

Sandro played 20 odd games the season before and only scored a hat trick in the cup against a lower league side. He never showed anything to be given a chance as back up this season.

Paco scored couple winners towards end of season and neither were tap ins. Chipped in with a few assists as well.

Latest excuse that others fed him as a 30m signing might be worst yet.

Anyway. Just going to add you to ignore list as arguments are so bad it feels like trolling.
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Why dont you name me a Valencia player who actually had a good season then? You cant.

Munir did have a great season when you take all the factors into consideration and there's no such thing as 'being too weak to play as a striker'.

How do you expect a player to be consistent when you get to play 15 minutes a month? Playing time is crucial for players at that age especially forwards and Sandro always showed glimpses of potential here and there and just btw if it wasn't for Sandros late goal that won us the game vs Villarreal away, we would have lost the league title to Real in 14/15.

Paco has always been setup by the MSN especially in the first couple of months they were literally waiting for Paco to get into position for an easy tap in rather than shooting themselves into an empty net. It couldnt have been more obvious. Munir and Sandro never got this treatment because they were both just homegrown players and not this 'multimillion supersigning' that is supposed to be our future starting striker after Suarez is done.
 
michelco

michelco

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Carlos Soler had a brilliant season (well, half season). Munir wasn't bought due to price and overbooking. Marcelino would probably be content with Munir as the mobile, second striker in his 4-4-2 but we already have RodriNOgol and Mina, two expensive signings.

Regarding Munir's season at Valencia:

Started out at right wing in 4-3-3. Played pretty poorly tbh, but so did the whole team. When Voro came in he moved Munir to the left wing in a 4-2-3-1 where he played rather well. Obviously not scoring too much but playing his role well both in defense and attack. He was never really trusted to play the sole central striker role.
 
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Xavinho

Xavinho

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michelco said:
Carlos Soler had a brilliant season (well, half season).
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Yeah Carlos Soler showed a lot of promise. I was disappointed when Valencia tied him down to a new contract with an €80 million buyout clause, although, obviously that's great for them.
 
Messi983

Messi983

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If we can't get good money for Munir (like 15-20M which is unlikely) then I'd prefer to sell him for few millions less and include buy-back option. I still think he can develop good in future with regular playing time.
 
clemente

clemente

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If he fucking leaves for free and without a buy-back clause then its confirmed that Barto is trynna fuck this club up
 
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