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    Quote Originally Posted by JamDav1982 View Post
    That definition doesnt describe what is happening at City or PSG at all.

    Falls down in the 'profit' part for a start.
    It seems you and I are talking about different topics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanadianBlaugrana View Post
    It seems you and I are talking about different topics.
    Seems like it.

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    Funny how happy Pep was after than training match today.

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    Tradition > Oil

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    The next time a green-eyed fan of another team sneers about Manchester City’s success being down to “oil money”, here is the answer.

    In fact, City are a self-sustaining club which not only posted record revenues and is in the top six money-making clubs on the planet, but is now turning a profit.

    Anyone with half a brain can see that the “oil money” jibe was is nonsense anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanadianBlaugrana View Post
    The next time a green-eyed fan of another team sneers about Manchester City’s success being down to “oil money”, here is the answer.

    In fact, City are a self-sustaining club which not only posted record revenues and is in the top six money-making clubs on the planet, but is now turning a profit.

    Anyone with half a brain can see that the “oil money” jibe was is nonsense anyway.

    Sorry, City will always be a joke club, much like PSG/Chelski.
    Thats just how it is, deal with it.
    The fact that they are becoming more self-substaining doesnt change the fact that they would never have had the players they have now, if not for the oil money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morten View Post
    Sorry, City will always be a joke club, much like PSG/Chelski.
    Thats just how it is, deal with it.
    The fact that they are becoming more self-substaining doesnt change the fact that they would never have had the players they have now, if not for the oil money.
    No, City is quite different from PSG and Chelsea. PSG is the prime example of some rich guys throwing money at a club without a sound plan to achieve anything. City on the other hand is funded by rich but also quite visionary folks (City Football Group) who are investing heavily in not just buying some of the best players in the world but also the future such as talent, facilities, branch clubs that act as both incubators and forces to expand their brand and influence (all over the world) etc., and they hired some of the most capable people to manage the club (many ex-Barca guys who contributed to our success on and off the field in the past).

    It is laughable that some people totally dismissed Guardiola (I don't even like the guy) and City's project simply because of yesterday's defeat at the hands of Liverpool. Guardiola has managed City for only what, one season so far? And he was able to lock in the championship in the most competitive league in Europe by a very comfortable lead. Crashing out of the CL quarters does not hand out the verdict on neither Guardiola or City. It is way too early. I for one expect City to become a very serious force to be reckoned with in the near future that will rock the boat. They have lots of money, they have brains and they are committed to a smart plan. Traditional clubs watch out.
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    Nowadays practically all big clubs have the players they have now due the money coming from more or less questionable sources.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luftstalag14 View Post
    No, City is quite different from PSG and Chelsea. PSG is the prime example of some rich guys throwing money at a club without a sound plan to achieve anything. City on the other hand is funded by rich but also quite visionary folks (City Football Group) who are investing heavily in not just buying some of the best players in the world but also the future such as talent, facilities, branch clubs that act as both incubators and forces to expand their brand and influence (all over the world) etc., and they hired some of the most capable people to manage the club (many ex-Barca guys who contributed to our success on and off the field in the past).

    It is laughable that some people totally dismissed Guardiola (I don't even like the guy) and City's project simply because of yesterday's defeat at the hands of Liverpool. Guardiola has managed City for only what, one season so far? And he was able to lock in the championship in the most competitive league in Europe by a very comfortable lead. Crashing out of the CL quarters does not hand out the verdict on neither Guardiola or City. It is way too early. I for one expect City to become a very serious force to be reckoned with in the near future that will rock the boat. They have lots of money, they have brains and they are committed to a smart plan. Traditional clubs watch out.

    Thats nice, but it still doesnt change anything.
    Clearly, City seems like a more serious club than PSG(what an achievment!), they have actual plans going forward, Pep is doing very well domestically and all that.

    Its not about performances though, i even said before the PSG games that if they were to knock us out, they still wouldnt be a real football club.
    Same goes for City, they could pull an amazing comeback in the return leg and go on to win it, and still be a joke club in my eyes.

    Because, in the end, they wouldnt be able to achieve what they have done, without dat oil.
    Before the oil flow, they used to be an irrelevant low-table side, not even a decent side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morten View Post
    Thats nice, but it still doesnt change anything.
    Clearly, City seems like a more serious club than PSG(what an achievment!), they have actual plans going forward, Pep is doing very well domestically and all that.

    Its not about performances though, i even said before the PSG games that if they were to knock us out, they still wouldnt be a real football club.
    Same goes for City, they could pull an amazing comeback in the return leg and go on to win it, and still be a joke club in my eyes.

    Because, in the end, they wouldnt be able to achieve what they have done, without dat oil.
    Before the oil flow, they used to be an irrelevant low-table side, not even a decent side.
    Well, every club had to start from somewhere and with something, right? Today's world is very much different from the late 1800's/early 1900's when those traditional clubs were founded. We might be proud of our roots, our upbringing and our model (both Barca and Real Madrid are among a few elite clubs that are still 100% owned and run by the club members), but if we can't compete with these relatively new-comers like City both on and off the field when it comes to trophies, revenues and influence etc., we will tumble just like the Milan clubs have done. It is not a small issue for some of the traditional clubs such as Barca and Real madrid to stay competitive when there is so much money going into football.

    20, 50, 100 years from now, people will place the likes of City in the highest regard if the traditional clubs crumble and fail to compete.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luftstalag14 View Post
    Well, every club had to start from somewhere and with something, right? Today's world is very much different from the late 1800's/early 1900's when those traditional clubs were founded. We might be proud of our roots, our upbringing and our model (both Barca and Real Madrid are among a few elite clubs that are still 100% owned and run by the club members), but if we can't compete with these relatively new-comers like City both on and off the field when it comes to trophies, revenues and influence etc., we will tumble just like the Milan clubs have done. It is not a small issue for some of the traditional clubs such as Barca and Real madrid to stay competitive when there is so much money going into football.

    20, 50, 100 years from now, people will place the likes of City in the highest regard if the traditional clubs crumble and fail to compete.

    Transition going forward will certainly be more difficult, given how much inflation the oil clubs have caused.
    Most of our team was bought on a relative cheap, compared to the transfers of these days, anyways.
    We got Ronaldo for 80 something, now we have to pay around 200 mill for a Harry Kane? We have to do smart transfers, but that alone probably isnt enough, we need big signings pretty soon, and thats going to cost so much more than what it used to do.

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    When it comes to actual goalkeeping Ederson just doesn‘t cut it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luftstalag14 View Post
    No, City is quite different from PSG and Chelsea. PSG is the prime example of some rich guys throwing money at a club without a sound plan to achieve anything. City on the other hand is funded by rich but also quite visionary folks (City Football Group) who are investing heavily in not just buying some of the best players in the world but also the future such as talent, facilities, branch clubs that act as both incubators and forces to expand their brand and influence (all over the world) etc., and they hired some of the most capable people to manage the club (many ex-Barca guys who contributed to our success on and off the field in the past).

    It is laughable that some people totally dismissed Guardiola (I don't even like the guy) and City's project simply because of yesterday's defeat at the hands of Liverpool. Guardiola has managed City for only what, one season so far? And he was able to lock in the championship in the most competitive league in Europe by a very comfortable lead. Crashing out of the CL quarters does not hand out the verdict on neither Guardiola or City. It is way too early. I for one expect City to become a very serious force to be reckoned with in the near future that will rock the boat. They have lots of money, they have brains and they are committed to a smart plan. Traditional clubs watch out.
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    Just looked through their squad. Their future surely is secured, they have a competitive starting-11 among the world elite for the next 6-8 already locked down!
    Only David Silva needs to be replaced when he gets too slow, but everywhere else they are stacked, and can afford to only do minor tweakings with some new squad-players.

    All of defence (minus Walker, who can be replaced by Danilo) has up to 8 good years in them with Ederson, Mendy, Laporte and Stones. Jesus, Sane and Sterling are 21, 22 and 23 - sure starters for them in the next period with Pep, that is impressive, tbh. City surely has come to stay for the foreseeable future, at least.