21st September 2012, 06:35 PM
Interested to know what you think of Sanchez Miño from Boca Juniors. He started off as a defender (LB) but now has since been used as an attacking midfielder due to his intelligence and versatility.
Originally Posted by AURELIUS
Also, Nolan. Yeah Roncaglia never gets caught out of position, and I've never seen him out hustled. Quality.
21st September 2012, 06:45 PM
Also, Roncaglia has had a season at Estudiantes. He can't be ruled out i guess.
21st September 2012, 07:03 PM
Legion of Doooom
Originally Posted by zanela
23rd September 2012, 05:06 PM
Legion of Doooom
11th October 2012, 06:39 AM
This thread has obviously been on a diet.
Tough test for Argentina tomorrow. Uruguay, despite being an aged team, is still one of the best teams in South America.
11th October 2012, 12:34 PM
I am Leg End
Owen admits diving against Argentina in 98 and 02.
Finally something that I can appreciate Owen for.
11th October 2012, 01:53 PM
Sabella is more varied in his selections than the two previous clowns it has to be said.
For the domestic farce against Brazil he did call up Mugni though young Vietto was not called along with Lisandro Lopez of Arsenal and Adrian Centurion also of Racing.
In this squad he has called young Gino Peruzzi who marked Neymar out of the Libertadores when Velez played Santos last season. He has made the right choice in calling up former Velez man Juan Manuel Martinez too but persisting with Brana over say Ponzio who has been in very food form is puzzling.
And persisting with Guinazu too. It's time those of a certain age were cut as I have repeatedly felt they will not last the pace in 2014. And Clemente ? Even Boca fans will be scratching their heads at that.
Left back options being ignored are Ansaldi and Mino. Pepe Silvia Mino is impressive at coming forward and attacking as befits a converted winger but he needs to learn more about the defensive side of things. If Sabella switched to a 3-5-2 he'd be ideal but in a four he may become a liability against teams better equipped to exploit spaces behind the attacker.
Roncaglia. He's maturing late and if he wants to play for Italy let him. What a sad attitude to have and poke in the eye.
On the youth front this late maturing is interesting. The jump to Europe is not easy and several players have had to take a second bite at it. Bergessio has responded well afte a poor initial stint in Portugual and others develop slowly. di Santo is starting to show the form he displayed at Audax Italiano. His touch has been undeniable but he has added aggression, pace and physical presence to his intelligence and he is now progressing nicely from the end of last season to this in the EPL.
And goalkeepers. Long a black hole in the seleccion there are two young prospects in the EPL. Damian Martinez has been a regular in all age group sides for Argentina and debuted in the League Cup against Coventry last week and if Wenger sticks to his normal policy he should be a regular in that. Unfortunately he has still to displace Mannone but he has great ability.
Paulo Gazzaniga is a six foot four giant who despite his talent was not utilized by Valencia and made a strange looking move to the fourth tier of English football and Gillingham. He was the best keeper in the division. Not much you might say to shout about but he matched current England number 2 Jack Butland and was keeper of the division.
He has been signed by Southampton and has played very well in his last two games in the EPL. For a young kid he has great confidence, He has the physique and agility of a top class keeper and is an excellent shot and penalty stopper as well as being a very good distributor of the ball from the back . Almost like an outfield player. And for a kid he is not afraid to shout at much older defenders and order them about. It is pleasing and welcome news to see considering the dearth of goalkeeping talent Argentina has experienced since the loss of Goyocochea.
The most recent u20 squad that played Mexico has some familiar names in it in Giovanni Simeone, Jonathan Valle and Lucas Rodriguez are the most highly rated. Others eligibles like Alessio Innocenti AC Milan and former Barca Juvenil player Mauro Icardi (Sampdoria) were not released.
Carlos Ruiz, Matías Kranevitter, Emanuel Mammana, Giovanni Simeone (River Plate)
Alan Aguirre, Lisandro Magallan (Boca Juniors)
Andrés Mehring, Marcos Fernández (Colón de Santa Fe)
Eugenio Isnaldi, Jonathan Valle (Newell’s Old Boys)
Juan Musso, Mauro Bazan (Racing Club)
Lucas Rodríguez (Argentinos Juniors)
Gastón Gil Romero (Estudiantes de La Plata)
Ángel Correa (San Lorenzo de Almagro)
Leonel Buter (Independiente)
Lucas Salas (San Martín de San Juan)
Brian Fernández (Defensa y Justicia)
Juan C. Careaga (All Boys)
Federico Cartabia (Valencia CF ESP)
Ed well it isn't a surprise. Pochettino's especially. However Argentina cannot like any other side in world football claim to be whiter than white. It's up the authorities to use technology to punish simulators and stamp it out of the game.
12th October 2012, 02:04 AM
it looks like one tense match to watch tomorrow. I can't wait! They trained with 4-3-3 formation and possible starting lineup of
now how good is the attacking lineup? Uruguay will likely prepare for this with defense and sting on the counter with Forlan, Suarez and Cavani. killer game to watch.
13th October 2012, 02:05 AM
2 goals from Messi today.
The 2nd was a nice FK.
23rd October 2012, 09:38 AM
The pibes won the u20 quadrangular tournament beating Chile 2-1 in the final with goals from Giovanni Simeone and Leonel Buter after dominating the final.
23rd October 2012, 04:40 PM
The Brazil friendly was the only game Argentina really had defensive problems, but I still think they will benefit from Coloccini's call up again. They need to have a stronger defense if they come up against European teams in the WC.
23rd October 2012, 04:42 PM
Not really, Argentina should have conceded 3/4 goals against Chile, only poor finishing stopped that.
Originally Posted by 89Norcal
Also the game in Peru they were lucky not to concede 2/3 more.
The only game the defence as looked solid in was the Uraguay game.
26th October 2012, 07:13 PM
Well maybe, I'm talking results wise, recently they've rarely conceded more than 1 goal. I know their offense is a factor in that. Having Coloccini back there would help
Originally Posted by JamDav1982
31st October 2012, 02:17 PM
The Argentine defense is getting pretty much better, Napoli's Fernandez is very talent, but Garay is just average,, If he plays alongside Colloccini or Masherano, the Argentine full-back would be solid. The lack of Argentina is a central midfilder like Xavi or Riquelme, Gago is just average. The win over Germany and Chile were litte lucky.
3rd November 2012, 09:36 AM
They were not lucky against Germany. Germany were lucky they did not concede six or seven. They are very weak at the back. Chile had a couple of clear chances that was all. The rest were speculative and in the second half they were restricted to chances outside of the box. Garay I suspect is a but of a weakness. Much prefer to see Colocinni, Spolli , Musacchio come in at some point. And no Mascherano at centreback either. He is a defensive midfielder first and foremost and link player. Gago has been playing well and provided some neat passing although his physicality is poor and he still lapses in concentration every game.
23 man squad for the friendly against Saudi Arabia. I'd be looking for the side to score at least six or seven goals.
Cristian Alvarez (Espanyol) Sergio Romero (Sampdoria) Mariano Andujar (Catania)
Fabriccio Colocinni (Newcastle) Federico Fernandez (Napoli) Hugo Campagnaro (Napoli) Exequiel Garay (Benfica) Marcos Rojo (Sporting Lisbon) Pablo Zabaleta (Manchester City) Luciano Monzon (Lyon)
Javier Mascherano (Barcelona) Fernando Gago (Valencia) Alberto Costa (Valencia) Ricardo Alvarez (Internazionale) Angel di Maria (Real Madrid) Enzo Perez (Benfica) Eduardo Salvio (Benfica) Fabian Rinaudo (Sporting Lisbon)
Lionel Messi (Barcelona) Gonzalo Higuain (Real Madrid) Augusto Fernandez (Celta Vigo) Sergio Aguero (Manchester City) Franco di Santo (Wigan Athletic)
Interesting choices. First call up for di Santo after impressing for Wigan at the end of last season and beginning of this and there is a need of a target nine. He has good awareness and passing skills but his physical frailty and lack of desire to get into the box was a handicap until this season. However several Argentine strikers have flowered late like Crespo and others of a lesser standard like Bergessio took two opportunities to make their mark.
Monzon brought in as an alternative attacking leftback who has improved defensively and played very well for Nice last season. Rinaudo missed most of last season with a serious injury after having been called up last year and is a defensive midfielder in the mould of a Brana but far younger. Alvarez has shown more for Internazionale this season but Perez and Salvio have just shown flashes. However their exposure in European competition may have helped.
Disappointed by the absence of Ansaldi and Spolli of Catania. And certainly the lack of Erik Lamela who has been impressive for Roma this season under the wise guidance of Zeman. Pastore unfortunately has dropped off the radar. Banega is unfortunately for him injured. This won't help him at all which is a shame as he is a better player than Gago and when he is on his game he is world class.
The u17 continued their impressive form beating Panama 2-0 and the USA 3-1 in their quadrangular games.
Suarez of Boca was impressive.