Conspiracy Theories (Illuminati, NWO & anything else)

[Hatem Ben Arfa]

OK Worms and Yugi......

Educate me on these Conspiracies that you believe are occuring?

NWO? Illuminati? Please explain them clearly to me and why I should be wary of them.

Specifically what kind of research have you done? In the library, public archives or internet that you can show me to make me a believer? Any links to books by academics, historians, research articles and papers? So called video evidence?

[estranged]

Knew this was gonna happen.

[Yugi]

there you go: http://lmgtfy.com/

[Bojan]

I think you are barking up the wrong tree and have few things mixed up. You should be questioning the system as the system is determining your life. Financial, political, whatever. It's the only way to make life better. Instead, you are lashing out on the next guy as he doesn't fit in your uniformed views.
What proof you have that democratic systems most of us live in are better in terms of social and health aspects. Or that democracy isn't used as an Adam's leaf for special interests. Or used as a pretext to invade other countries to serve those same special interests.
What books have you read? I don't even think you know what conspiracy means as I see you use it as if it's an unicorn. Conspiracies are everywhere where 2 or 3 guys meet to discuss something that can put someone else in disadvantage. From the most trivial level to the most scary ones.

[IrvDizzle]

aliens built the pyramids
the Illuminati run the world from their secret base under Mt Everest
King George and George Washington staged the American War for Independence to look for a gem imbued with mystical power
George Washington was actually a pirate, named Hans Weshterton
Hitler had the Spear of Destiny, then it was stolen from him, hence why he lost the war

and the most shockingly conspiracy of them all?

Coke and Pepsi are owned by the same company!!!

[Hatem Ben Arfa]

there you go: http://lmgtfy.com/

I want you to show me the proof that convinced YOU and made you a believer.

why should I spend hours trwaling the internet when clearly you and Worms already have, and have the priviledge of being in an informed position to help your fellow Barca fans to learn of the conspiracies being perpatrated against mankind?

Please at least show me specific links to the research you have done. Any books I should go to the library and read? and public archives I should request access to? any reliable links if your research was all online? Any respected academics going on record?

Or are you basing your beliefs on what someone says on the internet and taking it as fact without doing your won thorough research?

[Yugi]

why should I bother, its up to you to find those things out and study them, if you want to know about it... and you know all the common terms used within this conspiracy
you seem to know about it, you no longer need someones advice, do ya?

[Worms]

Iv'e researched this for years, probably took up over 300 hundred hours of my life.Now why should I take a few hours (which it will,the rabbit hole runs deep) to explain it to you?

If you want to find the truth you will find it but everybody's journey is different and so it should be.You see as your learning over a long time you begin to question stuff about your self and about the society you live in,if I just layed it all out on a plate for you you wouldn't have any time for these "epiphanys" if you like.

[Hatem Ben Arfa]

I think you are barking up the wrong tree and have few things mixed up. You should be questioning the system as the system is determining your life. Financial, political, whatever. It's the only way to make life better. Instead, you are lashing out on the next guy as he doesn't fit in your uniformed views.
What proof you have that democratic systems most of us live in are better in terms of social and health aspects. Or that democracy isn't used as an Adam's leaf for special interests. Or used as a pretext to invade other countries to serve those same special interests.
What books have you read?

I am more of socialist than a democrat, and it is clear that those in control of almost all governments mainly serve their own intersts or the interests of those who helped(many times dirty) get them elected instead of serving the interests of the people and country they are supposed to. But when they look out for the interests of those other parties, it is almost always interests that can help them make MONEY or secure future resources for a different country! Not reptiles wanting to ensalve humanity for dinner.

Corruption happens in every government on earth!

And yes people are slaves to money and the banks because of debt. But some of these conspiracies are absolutely outlandish....rothschild, bilderberg, NWO, reptiles run the world etc.

People think there is a NWO because people are rioting and overthrowing corrupt governemts because they want a government that truly serves the people. Well I give 10 years before they become corrupt themselves like those they have just replaced.

And I'm not barking up the wrong tree. I WANT to KNOW what compelling evidence, "cold hard facts" truly convinced them of the conspiracy theories they subscribe to. I am keeping an open mind and willing to change my mind and go over to their way of thinking if what they present to me is truly compelling, and not something clearly written online by a mentally unstable paranoid person who writes about a true conspiracy in the past admitted by governments, then making outlandish claims of other conspiracies that have no basis in fact whatsover.

[Bojan]

You have the wrong attitude to begin with as you are being cynical (I don't mind you being cynical towards ideas but you are cynical towards other people) and already decided that someone is "mentally ill". So what's the use of discussing?

What "cold hard facts" do you have that what media and politicians serve you is an absolute truth? Money rules the world and where's money there's greed and corruption. Conspiracies are nothing out of the ordinary. And when they happen on a global scale it's hard for people to accept it as they feel they have no control over their lives.

[Hatem Ben Arfa]

Iv'e researched this for years, probably took up over 300 hundred hours of my life.Now why should I take a few hours (which it will,the rabbit hole runs deep) to explain it to you?

If you want to find the truth you will find it but everybody's journey is different and so it should be.You see as your learning over a long time you begin to question stuff about your self and about the society you live in,if I just layed it all out on a plate for you you wouldn't have any time for these "epiphanys" if you like.

ah OK, so you cannot help me and give me just a single one of the "cold hard facts" which convinced you of the Illuminati & NWO conspiracies, after all that research.

You do know how that makes you and Yugi look to an outsider reading this forum right?

[Jonathan28]

Here's my conspiracy, man didn't land on the moon, they never have. It was all planned by the Americans because they wanted to beat the Russians into space. If people don't like this, its not my problem, they will just have to......

[Worms]

I am more of socialist than a democrat, and it is clear that those in control of almost all governments mainly serve their own intersts or the interests of those who helped(many times dirty) get them elected instead of serving the interests of the people and country they are supposed to. But when they look out for the interests of those other parties, it is almost always interests that can help them make MONEY or secure future resources for a different country! Not reptiles wanting to ensalve humanity for dinner.

Corruption happens in every government on earth!

And yes people are slaves to money and the banks because of debt. But some of these conspiracies are absolutely outlandish....rothschild, bilderberg, NWO, reptiles run the world etc.

People think there is a NWO because people are rioting and overthrowing corrupt governemts because they want a government that truly serves the people. Well I give 10 years before they become corrupt themselves like those they have just replaced.

And I'm not barking up the wrong tree. I WANT to KNOW what compelling evidence, "cold hard facts" truly convinced them of the conspiracy theories they subscribe to. I am keeping an open mind and willing to change my mind and go over to their way of thinking if what they present to me is truly compelling, and not something clearly written online by a mentally unstable paranoid person who writes about a true conspiracy in the past admitted by governments, then making outlandish claims of other conspiracies that have no basis in fact whatsover.

The reptile theory is most likely a diversion tactic by the TPTB,but a good place to start would be learning about the banks that control the governments,it's not the other way around.The politicians are merely puppets to the people who own the banks and media corporations. Study the Federal Reserve,Rothschild,Rockefellas etc

[Hatem Ben Arfa]

You have the wrong attitude to begin with as you are being cynical (I don't mind you being cynical towards ideas but you are cynical towards other people) and already decided that someone is "mentally ill". So what's the use of discussing?

What "cold hard facts" do you have that what media and politicians serve you is an absolute truth? Money rules the world and where's money there's greed and corruption. Conspiracies are nothing out of the ordinary. And when they happen on a global scale it's hard for people to accept it as they feel they have no control over their lives.

I did not say any of the posters on here are mentally ill. Please read the post again.

I'm saying the people who write conspiracy literature, articles etc in order to convince other unguarded people that the conspiracies are true usually start with a conspiracy that was TRUE, DID happen, and was Admitted by a government. Once they gain the trust of their readers, they then go on to make outlandish claims of other conspiracies that clearly indicate that they are most likely mentally ill with paranoia. Just go to any conspiracy theory website forum and just read some of the posts on there, and you will come to the conclusion that a good number of people are not in good mental health and that they do not even realize it themselves.

I apologize to Yugi and Worms if they think I was calling them mentally ill. I was not.

And I'm not being cynical. I'm being skeptical, but I am open minded enough to change my mind if they are willing to show me the "cold hard facts" that convinced them of the conspiracies being true, and if I find them compelling enough to warrant that change in my thining.

[Worms]

You have the wrong attitude to begin with as you are being cynical (I don't mind you being cynical towards ideas but you are cynical towards other people) and already decided that someone is "mentally ill". So what's the use of discussing?

What "cold hard facts" do you have that what media and politicians serve you is an absolute truth? Money rules the world and where's money there's greed and corruption. Conspiracies are nothing out of the ordinary. And when they happen on a global scale it's hard for people to accept it as they feel they have no control over their lives.

+1 most people don't want the truth,they are scared of it ,they might feel deep down that something is not quite right or there being lied to.But when you are awake life can never be the same and your whole outlook on life changes so quickly,like when I hear people discussing politics and they talk as if they are living in a democracy when in actual fact Labour and the Conservatives are two different sides of the same coin,they are both controlled by the same people,TPTB give you a illusion that your free so you are a more productive "slave" so to speak.

If any independent party ever threatens the controlled two or three partys,the media goes into overdrive and demonizes those partys (UKIP etc).How is that democracy?And that's even before going into the EU.

Ben Arfa I have already said if you want the truth you have to find it yourself,iv'e already given you advice where to start.