El Gato
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Not sure we should continue this in the Griez thread, but OK why not. I mean I did go off on a tangent so might as well finish.
You're not level headed bruh. You've proved it by producing an emotional essay where you're accentuating certain words showing how pissed off you actually are at my apparent intolerance and thinking I'm persecuting anybody. Because apparently being vocal about my views towards certain trends in footballer lifestyle is persecution or maybe some form of hate speech
Fuck me. Amusing.
Not to mention you're very comfortable with using "people" and attaching group mentality to your own opinion. That's nice, haha.
You seem to have blown this out into extreme for some reason. Everyone chooses their clothing as they see fit for a given occasion. If they want to walk around town wearing anything they bloody want it's completely cool. But you miss an obvious correlation between people with certain negative personality traits and the way they talk or dress, purely based on what they think is cool or comfortable. That applies across disciplines BTW, office jobs, whatever.
If you went walking around, I dunno, Brooklyn anytime between 1990 and now for example, you'll see similar trends. Observation, not an opinion.
Ah, you could ask Atletico fans throughout this season whether they fully agree with what you said here in the last sentence.
Nonetheless I agree, dude seems like a very good footballer that you can hardly find any problems with on the pitch. He seems down to earth and was known to be rather shy, and these types of people hardly grow into anything bad.
How he fits into locker rooms is possibly a different story, but doubt he'd be a troublemaker and he's worked under Simeone so I'm sure he's seen it all.
Perhaps you're right. There is historical importance attached to samba and how it was chosen to represent a certain style of football etc.
Just not sure how you can relate daft celebrations like a dab or that L and make them become a symbol of joyful football. Not that you've got to have that in your mind while you do it. But that then goes back to the argument that some people made here - Griez should probably do it once and ditch it, because otherwise he'll get a pointless tag attached to himself with a statement "Look at me! I play video games. All Fortnite gamers unite!" that serves zero purpose in the real world.
So many things to say to you here.. And you're right, the whole point of this discussion was to think beyond the celebration and look into the social aspects of today, so it does extend beyond football.
- I play games, I use social media. Double miss.
- There is correct and incorrect behaviour, and it depends on what you do and where you do it. For example, you don't go to the cemetery to have a picnic. Remember Pokemon Go and teenagers running into a Holocaust museum to catch a poison gas pokemon? I see the youth of today doing such things very frequently. But these are just examples of lack of education and values teens live by today. And to bring it back to football for a moment, Gattuso recently said to some young player who was making skill videos of himself to put on social media that if he'd seen him do it again, he'd knock his teeth out. Wonder where you stand on that, because I damn sure know where I do
- I used socially weak here in reference to the majority of deep gamers being introvert and anti-social, which IS a weakness, often one they don't care to admit publically. There are whole taboons of people complaining about lack of friends and underdevelopment of social skills. Numerous researchers did studies on how social media makes majority of its regular users dreadfully unhappy. Very same case with deep gamers many of whom are in denial about being unable to go outside and be social. They actually tend to form cliques within their own gaming world, don't learn how to cook their own meals, don't develop any other transferrable practical skills, who think they don't need them... and then they go and complain how shit their lives are under Jordan Peterson videos.
- No, I'm not superior, but far more acceptant of my own flaws, to the extent that I do not fear my world view being challenged. Something many conflictless people don't want to have to deal with and prefer to shout something like "how dare you?"
Oh yes, we would be doomed.
Movie star =/= celebrity. Singer =/= celebrity. Celebrity is somebody who for the most part doesn't deserve the fame they're getting. These sorts of people tend to be attention whores and feel comfortable putting their life in front of a camera on a near daily basis.
And I'm not so sure why anyone would want to be that for any sensible reasons.
Good discussion though. You could tone down the outrage and emotion
You're not level headed bruh. You've proved it by producing an emotional essay where you're accentuating certain words showing how pissed off you actually are at my apparent intolerance and thinking I'm persecuting anybody. Because apparently being vocal about my views towards certain trends in footballer lifestyle is persecution or maybe some form of hate speech
Fuck me. Amusing.Not to mention you're very comfortable with using "people" and attaching group mentality to your own opinion. That's nice, haha.
DonAndres said:
You seem to have blown this out into extreme for some reason. Everyone chooses their clothing as they see fit for a given occasion. If they want to walk around town wearing anything they bloody want it's completely cool. But you miss an obvious correlation between people with certain negative personality traits and the way they talk or dress, purely based on what they think is cool or comfortable. That applies across disciplines BTW, office jobs, whatever.
If you went walking around, I dunno, Brooklyn anytime between 1990 and now for example, you'll see similar trends. Observation, not an opinion.
DonAndres said:
Ah, you could ask Atletico fans throughout this season whether they fully agree with what you said here in the last sentence.
Nonetheless I agree, dude seems like a very good footballer that you can hardly find any problems with on the pitch. He seems down to earth and was known to be rather shy, and these types of people hardly grow into anything bad.
How he fits into locker rooms is possibly a different story, but doubt he'd be a troublemaker and he's worked under Simeone so I'm sure he's seen it all.
DonAndres said:
Perhaps you're right. There is historical importance attached to samba and how it was chosen to represent a certain style of football etc.
Just not sure how you can relate daft celebrations like a dab or that L and make them become a symbol of joyful football. Not that you've got to have that in your mind while you do it. But that then goes back to the argument that some people made here - Griez should probably do it once and ditch it, because otherwise he'll get a pointless tag attached to himself with a statement "Look at me! I play video games. All Fortnite gamers unite!" that serves zero purpose in the real world.
DonAndres said:
So many things to say to you here.. And you're right, the whole point of this discussion was to think beyond the celebration and look into the social aspects of today, so it does extend beyond football.
- I play games, I use social media. Double miss.
- There is correct and incorrect behaviour, and it depends on what you do and where you do it. For example, you don't go to the cemetery to have a picnic. Remember Pokemon Go and teenagers running into a Holocaust museum to catch a poison gas pokemon? I see the youth of today doing such things very frequently. But these are just examples of lack of education and values teens live by today. And to bring it back to football for a moment, Gattuso recently said to some young player who was making skill videos of himself to put on social media that if he'd seen him do it again, he'd knock his teeth out. Wonder where you stand on that, because I damn sure know where I do
- I used socially weak here in reference to the majority of deep gamers being introvert and anti-social, which IS a weakness, often one they don't care to admit publically. There are whole taboons of people complaining about lack of friends and underdevelopment of social skills. Numerous researchers did studies on how social media makes majority of its regular users dreadfully unhappy. Very same case with deep gamers many of whom are in denial about being unable to go outside and be social. They actually tend to form cliques within their own gaming world, don't learn how to cook their own meals, don't develop any other transferrable practical skills, who think they don't need them... and then they go and complain how shit their lives are under Jordan Peterson videos.
- No, I'm not superior, but far more acceptant of my own flaws, to the extent that I do not fear my world view being challenged. Something many conflictless people don't want to have to deal with and prefer to shout something like "how dare you?"
DonAndres said:
Oh yes, we would be doomed.
Movie star =/= celebrity. Singer =/= celebrity. Celebrity is somebody who for the most part doesn't deserve the fame they're getting. These sorts of people tend to be attention whores and feel comfortable putting their life in front of a camera on a near daily basis.
And I'm not so sure why anyone would want to be that for any sensible reasons.
Good discussion though. You could tone down the outrage and emotion
