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    The problem for most of our floped players is the system. They doesnt fit in.

    Coutinho WAS a good player that was destroyed by the systen and Griezmann is suffering too.

    Do you guys really think that this really slow football os our philosofy? We should play a passing possession style? Yes, but that style should have beem much more dynamic.

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    Barcelona have beem like the Brazilian NT. Does okay (for our standards) because of the high quality players that are in the team, but the board and the managers still look too much to the glory of the past.

    At least most of brazilians realized that the tactics are outdated and are trying to change things on our championship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jcar View Post
    The problem for most of our floped players is the system. They doesnt fit in.

    Coutinho WAS a good player that was destroyed by the systen and Griezmann is suffering too.

    Do you guys really think that this really slow football os our philosofy? We should play a passing possession style? Yes, but that style should have beem much more dynamic.
    That's what people don't understand. Coutinho and Griezmann both played great before they signed with us. All went to shit only after they came and joined our crap system. They were doing great under Klopp and Simeone. Because their teams are properly set and because they are tier 1 managers.

    Sure, you can talk about their mentality and so on and so forth, but they also showed that in the right conditions they were able to deliver elite performances consistently. The problem is at Barcelona they have/had anything but the proper conditions. Any player that plays well when the system works can play crap in a faulty team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by serghei View Post
    That's what people don't understand. Coutinho and Griezmann both played great before they signed with us. All went to shit only after they came and joined our crap system. They were doing great under Klopp and Simeone. Because their teams are properly set and because they are tier 1 managers.

    Sure, you can talk about their mentality and so on and so forth, but they also showed that in the right conditions they were able to deliver elite performances consistently. The problem is at Barcelona they have/had anything but the proper conditions. Any player that plays well when the system works can play crap in a faulty team.
    Coutinho is average at Bayern

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    coutinho didn't amount to anything more than 2-3 seasons at liverpool in his whole career. played for inter, barca and bayern - as top level as it gets and he flopped.

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    After closing the Arthur - Pjanić deal, Juventus and Barcelona continue to work on new deals. One of them could involve Antoine Griezmann. Talks are ongoing and Douglas Costa and Adrien Rabiot have options to enter a possible deal. [rai via sport]

    I don't want to hear anymore about Rabiot...

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    damn Barto really determined to burn this club to the ground

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    Quote Originally Posted by Givenchy View Post
    damn Barto really determined to burn this club to the ground
    At this point nobody will be surprised if years later it is revealed Barto is a Real Madrid supporter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vegitot View Post
    Coutinho is average at Bayern
    Coutinho's foootball and mentality was destroyed here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Messigician View Post
    At this point nobody will be surprised if years later it is revealed Barto is a Real Madrid supporter.
    Asspanyol or Madridista for sure. a monkey would do a better job as Barca president

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    Quote Originally Posted by Givenchy View Post
    damn Barto really determined to burn this club to the ground
    If this happens.. there needs to be a riot. Bartomeu out right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jcar View Post
    Coutinho's foootball and mentality was destroyed here.
    And he can not reborn after that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vegitot View Post
    And he can not reborn after that?
    He could, but not everyone manages to do It.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Messigician View Post
    After closing the Arthur - Pjanić deal, Juventus and Barcelona continue to work on new deals. One of them could involve Antoine Griezmann. Talks are ongoing and Douglas Costa and Adrien Rabiot have options to enter a possible deal. [rai via sport]

    I don't want to hear anymore about Rabiot...
    Seems like a win win deal for Bar?a and Juventus.

    Swapping substitutes (Rabiot and Griezmann) and Bar?a get the better end of the deal with the highly technical and dangerous Douglas Costa. It will be hard to convince Rabiot though, he is a juventino through and through. Maybe you'll need to give some assurance he would be a starter at Bar?a (he can be substitute only at Turin, his beloved club) and i guess FDJ should make place for Rabiot. Send the dutch farmer to PSG and i think it will be a successful window for Juve, Bar?a while PSG gets ripped off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Newcomer View Post
    Seems like a win win deal for Bar?a and Juventus.

    Swapping substitutes (Rabiot and Griezmann) and Bar?a get the better end of the deal with the highly technical and dangerous Douglas Costa. It will be hard to convince Rabiot though, he is a juventini through and through. Maybe you'll need to give some assurance he would be a starter at Bar?a (he can be substitute only at Turin, his beloved club) and i guess FDJ should make place for Rabiot. Send the dutch farmer to PSG and i think it will be a successful window for Juve, Bar?a while PSG gets ripped off.
    Win win? Sure if we want to be the next Arsenal and not the best team in the world

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