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    He is on the same level as xavi, iniesta, zidane, he is main engine in real madrid and now croatia, i dont want to repeat real's success in CL, but croatia is going to WC final with modric, thats something special, i dont want to take nothing from xavi and iniesta in NT team, but they had better players around that is not even comparable, if croatia wins WC, he will be greatest midfielder of all time for me, nobody will change my opinion.


    I think real madrid fans consider him as a best purchase ever in real history, who else? They never had so much success in CL before, i dont count 50-s

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    Real Madrid won all their recent CLs due to a combination of:

    a) Ramos last minute heroics
    b) easy draws
    c) Ronaldo scoring braces and hattricks for fun against Bayern, Atletico, Juventus and everyone else
    d) Referees gifting key decision to Madrid in crucial moments

    But the last reason was Modric being some sort of midfield god. Real got ran over in the middle of the park countless times, against Bayern, against Juventus, in countless Clasicos. To build up this narrative of Modric being the best midfielder of all time all of a sudden is a total joke. Tell me one memorable Modric Clasico performance in the last 5 years. Just one.





    Not even in the same tier.

    Making it past Russia and England with players like Mandzukic, Perisic, Rakitic in the team is not a huge miracle either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ursegor View Post
    Real Madrid won all their recent CLs due to a combination of:

    a) Ramos last minute heroics
    b) easy draws
    c) Ronaldo scoring braces and hattricks for fun against Bayern, Atletico, Juventus and everyone else
    d) Referees gifting key decision to Madrid in crucial moments

    But the last reason was Modric being some sort of midfield god. Real got ran over in the middle of the park countless times, against Bayern, against Juventus, in countless Clasicos. To build up this narrative of Modric being the best midfielder of all time all of a sudden is a total joke. Tell me one memorable Modric Clasico performance in the last 5 years. Just one.





    Not even in the same tier.
    I was saying Modric has been overhyped this tournament, despite having a good/decent tournament, but there is no underestimating what he has done for RM.
    He has been one of our top performers over the years, especially in the CL, look no further than the final against Liverpool, he kept us alive in the first half.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morten View Post
    I was saying Modric has been overhyped this tournament, despite having a good/decent tournament, but there is no underestimating what he has done for RM.
    He has been one of our top performers over the years, especially in the CL, look no further than the final against Liverpool, he kept us alive in the first half.
    Sure, doesn't make him "best midfielder of all time" though. He's not in that tier just like Ramos is not in the tier for best defenders of all time despite being clutch for you and having won everything there is to win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ursegor View Post
    Sure, doesn't make him "best midfielder of all time" though. He's not in that tier just like Ramos is not in the tier for best defenders of all time despite being clutch for you and having won everything there is to win.
    I dont think he is quite there either, but is also a bit subjective, isnt it?
    Like, so many rate Xavi as the undisputable best of his generation(if not of all time), but personally, i dont see why Iniesta isnt in the same tier, and i always found him more impressive for the national side than Xavi. So, some think Xavi is untouchable, yet i think he is slightly overrated, much like you think Modric is slightly overrated, and i think he is properly rated overall(despite the hype train this tournament).

    People just have different opinions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ursegor View Post
    He has been mediocre and about as good as Rakitic overall. Insane hype machine all of a sudden. "Same level as Xavi or higher". LMAO

    This forum has lost it completely after Madrid's 3rd CL in a row.
    This. It's hilarious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morten View Post
    I dont think he is quite there either, but is also a bit subjective, isnt it?
    Like, so many rate Xavi as the undisputable best of his generation(if not of all time), but personally, i dont see why Iniesta isnt in the same tier, and i always found him more impressive for the national side than Xavi. So, some think Xavi is untouchable, yet i think he is slightly overrated, much like you think Modric is slightly overrated, and i think he is properly rated overall(despite the hype train this tournament).

    People just have different opinions.
    Iniesta isn't better than Xavi in central midfield, because Xavi was simply superior in more aspects associated with the CM position.

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    No one is near Xavi. Iniesta and Modric combined are not better than him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catta View Post
    No one is near Xavi. Iniesta and Modric combined are not better than him.
    Exactly what i was talking about, Xavi is actually becoming overrated at this point, in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morten View Post
    Exactly what i was talking about, Xavi is actually becoming overrated at this point, in my opinion.
    If anybody is becoming overrated, it's Modric. He never dominated a game like Xavi did. Without Xavi, Iniesta with both Barca and Spain has done nothing. No Xavi, no party for Barca and Spain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catta View Post
    If anybody is becoming overrated, it's Modric. He never dominated a game like Xavi did. Without Xavi, Iniesta with both Barca and Spain has done nothing. No Xavi, no party for Barca and Spain.
    I have said that Modric this tournament hasnt been as good as some people think, dont think he is overrated in general.
    Xavi is an all time great, but at the same time he is becoming overrated imo, nothing he ever did on a football pitch can be questioned it seems, according to you.
    Iniesta ran away with motm in so many big games, but for some reason, he doesnt even compare to Xavi either....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catta View Post
    If anybody is becoming overrated, it's Modric. He never dominated a game like Xavi did. Without Xavi, Iniesta with both Barca and Spain has done nothing. No Xavi, no party for Barca and Spain.
    What a bunch of nonsense.

    Xavi did nothing in 2006 and 2014, yet he won the champions league all the same. Iniesta was a starter and a had a terrific season in 2014.

    Spain's team from 2008-2012 had the best goalkeeper in the world, the best defense in the world with prime Puyol, Pique and Ramos, the best midfield in the world with Iniesta, Xabi Alonso and Busquets and prime Villa who score 59 goals for Spain. But, yes, let's give Xavi all the credit.

    The fact that people think Rakitic has had as good of a tournament as Modric should end all discussion about any kind of objectivity on this forum. We should just closed these Real Madrid threads and be done with it. Thank goodness my fellow Barca fans in nonvirtual life are not as insufferably smug and biased when Barca players are concerned. I love Barca but i love good discussion and reason more. XaVi Is Da GrEAteSt, hE Is The BeSteSt, aNd aLsO THe GreAtEst, is not a discussion.

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    Rakitic is not the Xavi to Modric's Iniesta. He's more like the Xabi Alonso of Croatia. The engine that keep running and covering space all over the pitch.

    Modric's second half last night was freaking amazing. How does this guy run back to defend and make those tackles all game long I cannot understand, especially at this age. I don't think Modric would surpass Xavi even if he wins the WC, but he's definitely mighty close.

    People saying Modric has been mediocre and then complaining about the people thinking otherwise(those that are going OTT with the praise) obviously have no middle ground here and should look at themselves first as a part of the two extremes here.
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    Recency bias is strong in this thread. Also people discrediting Iniesta by saying he is nothing without Xavi. Smh. Oh man this forum took a huge dive down in the last year. Modric is good but he is not the best player at the world cup imo. His legacy won't be as big as Iniesta nor is his overall level. Iniesta has many more trophies under his belt and he gave some critical motm performances in the finals. But it is not some travesty to comapare them, he is good enough to be mentioned in the same sentence. Just don't think they are equal. But he is very close.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Icarium View Post
    Recency bias is strong in this thread. Also people discrediting Iniesta by saying he is nothing without Xavi. Smh. Oh man this forum took a huge dive down in the last year. Modric is good but he is not the best player at the world cup imo. His legacy won't be as big as Iniesta nor is his overall level. Iniesta has many more trophies under his belt and he gave some critical motm performances in the finals. But it is not some travesty to comapare them, he is good enough to be mentioned in the same sentence. Just don't think they are equal. But he is very close.
    Who is the best player on this WC for you?

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