haha okayOriginally Posted by Bojan
I said it with fondness
haha okayI said it with fondness
It's so laughable but the papers here in England call Wayne Rooney the best player in the world based on the other night's CL game... it clearly shows how deluded the media here could get! However, Ronnie (R80) got a rave reviews from his performance in the said game... ie media from Sao Paolo, Italy, Spain (Marca), ********* even here in England such as The Daily Mail... here's the link...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...-B-movies.html
Vamos Ronnie.... see you in South Africa WC !!!!
"I hear some people say he will never be able to rediscover that form, but I don't think that's correct. He needs to refocus on his game, he needs to get his mind on his game and then I have no doubt that he can be at his best again. Like Messi, he brings so much happiness to football." - Rijkaard on Ronaldinho
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I think we will see R80 at the 2010 WC, but on the bench for Brazil. If he wants to start he has to earn his place and take it away from the other players that have been playing well in that position.
i dont think he has a change in hell with Dunga... but at the moment he is better then kaka imo...
"I pass and I move, I help you, I look for you, I stop, I raise my head, I look and, above all, I open up the pitch...The one who has the ball, is the master of the game...That's the school of Joan Vilà, of Albert Benaiges, of Johan Cruijff, of Pep Guardiola" - Xavi Hernandez
!!Visca Barça!! !!Visca Catalunya!!
He is doing better the Kaka, but you have to remember the likes of Diego from Juventus, Hernanes, Ramires, Elano who are all great players for Brazil and good playmakers. So he will have some competition to have a place in starting 11 for Brazil but if he continues playing well with Milan especially right now in the CL, then he will get more confidence form Dunga to put him in the starting 11.
all those players are not doing that well... except maybe ramires.... but he plays in a less serious league imo hmmm i think brasil is screwed none of their players are doing very well this season... i think dani alves and nilmar will have to lead the team
"I pass and I move, I help you, I look for you, I stop, I raise my head, I look and, above all, I open up the pitch...The one who has the ball, is the master of the game...That's the school of Joan Vilà, of Albert Benaiges, of Johan Cruijff, of Pep Guardiola" - Xavi Hernandez
!!Visca Barça!! !!Visca Catalunya!!
i'm not referring to all season.. i was referring to that particular "outshine" word which to me is not relevant to what i saw on the game. its obvious we have different opinions and views and i'm not going to change your mind nor will you change my mind so im just gonna drop it right here
Dinho
Not much of the players from Brazil are doing well in their leagues, but when the WC comes we will see them at their best and play that beautiful fútbol that we all like to see.
i guess wel will see... i been talking so much sh*t to my GF about brasil being in group of death and all their players sucking it up.... hope it dosent come back to bite me, i see them knocked out by spain tbh
"I pass and I move, I help you, I look for you, I stop, I raise my head, I look and, above all, I open up the pitch...The one who has the ball, is the master of the game...That's the school of Joan Vilà, of Albert Benaiges, of Johan Cruijff, of Pep Guardiola" - Xavi Hernandez
!!Visca Barça!! !!Visca Catalunya!!
Spain vs Brazil will be a dream match for everyone, because you will see two great teams that both play different ways on the field but they play it "God Like".
well it def could happen in the round of 16....Spain vs Brazil will be a dream match for everyone, because you will see two great teams that both play different ways on the field but they play it "God Like".
"I pass and I move, I help you, I look for you, I stop, I raise my head, I look and, above all, I open up the pitch...The one who has the ball, is the master of the game...That's the school of Joan Vilà, of Albert Benaiges, of Johan Cruijff, of Pep Guardiola" - Xavi Hernandez
!!Visca Barça!! !!Visca Catalunya!!
are you english?
No, I am from the Philippines, I suppose you are and a Man U fan at that? You are obviously arguing Wayne Rooney's case in a Ronaldinho's thread so do not be surprise if you meet a lot of opposition here.
Well, I grant you Wayne Rooney has been clinical on that night as a striker should be BUT comparing him to R80's quality just does not cut it. Ronnie on that night played both as a striker and a playmaker and I must say he is more effective because he has scored (nicer goal which is a volley versus Rooney's header) and produced an assist for Seedorf's goal. So which of the two players performed better? Plus, Milan played attacking football vs Man U's effective/Mourinho's style football? Proof of that is Man U got only 4 chances at goal against Milan's countless chances, which if they (Milan) have been a bit lucky and able to convert their chances on that night... 1st leg could have been Milan's. Having said that, it's not over until it's over. So Milan is still in the running I would say.
"I hear some people say he will never be able to rediscover that form, but I don't think that's correct. He needs to refocus on his game, he needs to get his mind on his game and then I have no doubt that he can be at his best again. Like Messi, he brings so much happiness to football." - Rijkaard on Ronaldinho
Im scottish and a barca fan..i just think that rooney is a great player, aw yeah theres no doubt ronnies skills, flashyness are far better, but atm i would want rooney in my team, based on pure effectiveness, he is winning games, which i dont think ronnie is, but i am not a MU fan, I consider that an insult..:P
Its not over, but Mu are a very different team at home in europe than they are away, i cant see milan playing the same game as they did at the san siro,
incidently, i dont think we'll see Ronnie at the world cup, hes fallen badly out of favour with Dunga..
You might be a Barca fan but obviously a Rooney fan that much is clear otherwise your claim that Rooney is a much more effective player than Ronaldinho is so controversial along with your other previous statement ie Kaka et al are elite players but not Ronnie? Seriously!!!! A Golden foot awardee and a recent Best Player of the Decade is not considered elite? Where is Kaka now in Real Madrid? Don't get me started with Cristina... Rooney has just improved his play a notch higher this season but got a LOT to prove, in short he is still nothing (no meaningful individual award to confirm his status), well Ibra is Ibra...? ; Ok Messi, Iniesta, & Xavi... but still Ronnie is cut above them imo. "Ronnie not winning games" uh oh... are you watching Seria A?Im scottish and a barca fan..
Its not over, but Mu are a very different team at home in europe than they are away, i cant see milan playing the same game as they did at the san siro,
incidently, i dont think we'll see Ronnie at the world cup, hes fallen badly out of favour with Dunga..
Regarding Ronnie's chances in WC this summer, my analysis is... Dunga is just motivating Ronnie to work extra hard bec. Brazil will benefit greatly from it. Dunga will not have the guts to left out Ronnie in such a critical situation (their 5x WC record at stake)! If you recall, Dunga was playing Ronnie in the WC qualifiers during which times Brazil needed help in 2008. Brazil trailing Argentina then... so Ronnie did help Brazil to get back to winning... and then Brazil indeed went back to winning ways so there is no incentive to play Ronnie the rest of the qualifying. Also, there is no need for Ronnie to be in the upcoming Ireland friendly either... what for? Do you honestly believe that all the players that get to be called in that friendly will be playing at the WC? Thing is, Dunga does not want his opponents to analyze his WC tactics well in advance. So he is keeping his opponents guessing, which is a good strategy if you ask me, think Sun Tzu's Art of War...
We'll see how the Man U vs Milan 2nd leg pans out, shall we?
Last edited by MJ BarcaFan; 20th February 2010 at 04:33 PM.
"I hear some people say he will never be able to rediscover that form, but I don't think that's correct. He needs to refocus on his game, he needs to get his mind on his game and then I have no doubt that he can be at his best again. Like Messi, he brings so much happiness to football." - Rijkaard on Ronaldinho
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