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    Quote Originally Posted by Raed View Post
    No because you cannot stand him, making you blinded by your emotions towards him.

    He is not my favorite player what so ever, I see a lot of flaws with his game, and I would like to see a lot of improvements in some areas, some which he could, and some in which he isn't cut out to make.

    The reason people like you dislike him and are willing to criticize him left and right at any given oppurtunity is because wherever he went he was the spoiled little kid of the team. What most people here critisize Ronaldo for is for not being able to hide his emotions what so ever. The players we are used to growing up were a bunch of thugs, indifferent to any situation with their emotions. You used to look up to these players and always wondered how thick-skinned they can be. You wanted to be like them, you tried to immitate them on the football pitch with your friends, but you couldn't nor will you ever. It is so easy to trash talk about him for crying after crashing out in the Euros, it is easy to trash talk about him asking for fouls while at home sitting in your comfortable couch, it is easy to point out his mistakes like doing a fancy back pass in the Euros for it to be cut off by a striker (forgot the game) and it is easy to dislike his clothes.

    C Ronaldo is the same. He isn't very much older than I am, maybe not much older than you or maybe younger but one thing is for sure about Ronaldo and that is he is 110% passionate about the game and he is smart as hell. All these stupid smiles he puts on his face, all these attempts at jokes with journalists are nothing but a mere protection method to get back at envious fans who were never able to accumulate half of his desire and commitment to their own goals in life.

    For all his tantrums, not a single coach, not a single player has ever accused him of being unprofessional, or accused him of ever giving less than 100%. Check his last coach, had Ronaldo disrespected him, Ronaldo's career would have long been sent down the drain.

    I am not trying to make him out to be some sort of impeccable footballer but much like David Beckham, he knows where his strengths lie, he knows where his weaknesses are. He tried to have fun on the soccer pitch every once in a while but he always plays to his strengths and is always focused. That you cannot take away from him, and if his career ended today, he will be greatly remembered and placed among the best in history. He doesn't posses the same ball control as Messi, nor does he have Figo's brilliance along the line, nor does he have Zidane's first touch and vision but he is fast and trained himself to be faster, he shoots well and trained himself to shoot better, he can read a potential pass and get into position, he is strong and trained to become faster. He is a top athlete with very good football skills (not excellent, but very good).
    haha big judgment you got from "no"?

    but seariously i hardly hear any critizm from commentators about ronaldo "ohhh its ronaldo hes aloud to act a baby on the pitch... great role model to children"

    Quote Originally Posted by Jordzibob View Post
    Thats what I said up there ^^^^^ there are many flaws to him, he can be seen as arrogant and greedy at times, but in absolutely no way can you sit there like Danny4barca is doing and say he gets too much praise on the field, he's an incredible footballer and professional and has worked his socks off to get to that position. So what if he's vain? Off the field I think the media make too much of him, he's criticised too much, on the field he's without doubt at least the second best player in the world



    I'm not, I think the sheer fact that he's not humble like Messi, Xavi, Iniesta makes him into something of a hate figure, and then people like Danny4barca take that onto the pitch and criticise his performances. I dont think he's that bad....
    omg shut up "people like danny4barca" how can you read my all characterstics from no
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    Quote Originally Posted by danny4barca View Post
    haha big judgment you got from "no"?

    but seariously i hardly hear any critizm from commentators about ronaldo "ohhh its ronaldo hes aloud to act a baby on the pitch... great role model to children"



    omg shut up "people like danny4barca" how can you read my all characterstics from no
    Well thats what you did, whether people agree with your opinion or not you criticised Ronaldo for his on pitch performances and like Raed, I felt you were criticising him pretty much because you just dont like him. I dont think that should take away from the fact that he is an outstanding player, he's arrogant, but completely professional.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordzibob View Post
    Well thats what you did, whether people agree with your opinion or not you criticised Ronaldo for his on pitch performances and like Raed, I felt you were criticising him pretty much because you just dont like him. I dont think that should take away from the fact that he is an outstanding player, he's arrogant, but completely professional.
    in my opinion i dont like the way he plays.... i feel there are better players just my opinion sorry!

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    Professional? By professional do you mean random kick outs on players who tackle him fairly, weekly tantrums and in general being a fag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maz View Post
    He doesn't do all that to get back at fans. He is the kind of guy that puts a tub of gel in his hair. He is the kind of guy that waxes his eyebrows. He is the kind of guy that hooks up with paris hilton. He is the kind of guy that moans when he doesn't get his way on the pitch. That throws his shirt away when he gets subbed. That will refuse to shake the hand of his coach.

    Face it, he isn't a likeable man. Not because he is smart of the way he acts, but because he isn't a likeable man. What you wrote was very eloquent but i don't know how u figure there is some master plan that ronaldo is plotting, and these are all parts of his master plan.

    On the field he gets undue criticism, but don't defend his character off the field. Compare his comments with messi's comments. With Xavi's comments. With Zidane's comments. All of those are better than him yet are they not smart enough to be the kind of player that fans love to hate?

    Why is it that ronaldo exclusively gets this hate? Why not zola? Why not bergkamp? Why not henry? Why not tons of players that played in the premiership and were better than ronaldo?
    I never said he is likeble, I never defended his attitude. While he isn't the most pleasant of people like Kaka and Bergkamp, he gets way more criticism than he deserves. Like I said, he isn't one of my favorite players at all, maybe he never will be because he doesn't have this persona about him on the field that emits joy and fun.

    And his attitude is what it is because he is a spoiled kid who did not grow up in the slums nor did he have a life threatening injury but miraculously healed and has been treated like that by coaches, the best of them out there including SAF.

    While he isn't likeble, he isn't there to be liked. But for those who want to make it into football, if your name isn't iniesta, then you better toughen up and work as hard as Christiano because whether you like it or not, he has set an example as to how hard you should work day in day out.

    Hate him for who is, hate him for how he acts, but do not take away from his achievements as a football player nor as an athlete who has medals and goals for all the gel and wax he puts on his hair. In terms of hard work, he is a role model.

    When you go to a stadium, yell at him, curse him, intimidate him as much as possible and be as cruel as you can, you are a Cule and it is your job to frighten him as much as possible.

    But on a forum that wraps different leagues and fans from across the world, I expected constructive criticism.

    Did Theirry Henry take the world by storm when he was at Ronaldo's age? Within the EPL he was sublime and that is all he was. In France he wasn't even looked forward to and wasn't even in the limelight. Let us not forget that Theirry Henry also does the 'ref, are you serious?' stupid face all the time whenever he doesn't get his way, and let us not forget how stupidly he acted after the CL final agaist Barca. In Portugal, there was only Figo on the level of Zidane. So Ronaldo's status skipped a few steps along the way in search for a miracle that would put Portugal on the world map. Plus, Ronaldo's fame/hate is directly related to how Skysports started jerking off over him. While the names you mentioned may not be as disliked as Ronaldo, and maybe they aren't as repulsive as him, that doesn't take away from the fact that his every move is exaggerated.

    Denis Bergkamp the same player who stepped on another Argentinian player in the World Cup? What a top lad?

    Quote Originally Posted by danny4barca View Post
    haha big judgment you got from "no"?

    but seariously i hardly hear any critizm from commentators about ronaldo "ohhh its ronaldo hes aloud to act a baby on the pitch... great role model to children"



    omg shut up "people like danny4barca" how can you read my all characterstics from no
    I did not mean to draw conclusions about your personality or behavior nor your opinions. In fact I did not look at the name what so ever, merely hit reply right away.

    But I find it sickining that Ronaldo has a thread over 150 pages long, most of it filled with just cursing. If we were to discuss football, at max we'd discuss his attributes over 30 pages. Off the field antics? 20 pages.

    But there is just so much emotions towards one player, just one player that this forum managed to contribute 150 pages!!!! CRAZY!

    And you say he is arrogant? Fucking hell, write 150 pages about anyone and they will act ten times worse. You give him all the attention that makes him as dislike-ble as he is now.
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    like I said, people don't like ronaldo for three reasons on here.

    1. he's a twat
    2. he played for united
    3. united beat us, and he beat messi to the ballon d'or (some cules can be very bitter)

    I mean, I think he's just a spoiled child who acts like one on the pitch (and looks scarily like his mother). he's a diver, a whinger, and pretty much a monumental cockbag. however, as a professional and sportsman he's excellent because he's ridiculously dedicated to training, etc., and very professional despite his twattery. and he seems like he'd be a laugh if you had him in a group of friends. however certain things (women, holidays and football) turn him into a... can you guess?

    and that's the thing (and now madridistas will haveta get used to defending him for this) - despite all his footballing achievements he will always be a monumental cockbag and his reputation will suffer for it. he will never be liked and loved by the masses beyond the realms of football, he's not charismatic or cool enough. and because of this he won't get the sporting praise he deserves, because saying "he's a cunt" is a lot easier than saying "he's a fantastic player and athlete, but off the pitch he sure is a cunt."

    kaka would get similar treatment but he disguises his wankery with two simple moves
    -he smiles and doesn't throw childish tantrums
    -he talks about/shows off his religion at every chance


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    For me, the United thing isn't applicable. If Rooney would win the Ballon D'or next year, all cool ese. Because he is a normal lad as far as I can tell who gots teh talents.

    There is just something wrong about Crissy. On the one hand he is so professional and on the other hand he is practically childish in everything he does. The way he took the defeat after the CL final in Rome (OK, he was off to Madrid anyway so that might have been the key), THAT was professionalism. On par with his training efforts etc. The rest of his moves are usually annoying, useless, redundant and so and fort. It doesn't match his level of professionalism at all. In fact he is one of the biggest babies on the pitch out there, despite his skills. Neither do I think that it is a master plan, it's just plain stupid. What would be the master plan behind grieving and shaking with his head when subbed (even at his new club?). He surely won't get back at anyone with that nor is it professional. It's just a cocky problem. Just like he checks himself out on the big screen after every action.

    I don't like Mancs either but I could easily love Giggs, Rooney or Van der Sar. Kaka could beat Messi for the Ballon d'Or when he is in full throttle but I sitll like him. Cause he isn't such a massive cock. Ronaldo just spoils it for himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metaphysical View Post
    like I said, people don't like ronaldo for three reasons on here.

    1. he's a twat
    2. he played for united
    3. united beat us, and he beat messi to the ballon d'or (some cules can be very bitter)

    I mean, I think he's just a spoiled child who acts like one on the pitch (and looks scarily like his mother). he's a diver, a whinger, and pretty much a monumental cockbag. however, as a professional and sportsman he's excellent because he's ridiculously dedicated to training, etc., and very professional despite his twattery. and he seems like he'd be a laugh if you had him in a group of friends. however certain things (women, holidays and football) turn him into a... can you guess?

    and that's the thing (and now madridistas will haveta get used to defending him for this) - despite all his footballing achievements he will always be a monumental cockbag and his reputation will suffer for it. he will never be liked and loved by the masses beyond the realms of football, he's not charismatic or cool enough. and because of this he won't get the sporting praise he deserves, because saying "he's a cunt" is a lot easier than saying "he's a fantastic player and athlete, but off the pitch he sure is a cunt."

    kaka would get similar treatment but he disguises his wankery with two simple moves
    -he smiles and doesn't throw childish tantrums
    -he talks about/shows off his religion at every chance
    "wankery" lol legendary

    i think ability would be first then persernality

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    CR isn't likeable as a person, it's completely true. If he had the talent of an all time great such as a Maradona, Pele, Cruyff, Garrincha etc then he'd probably be able to make up for it purely based on outstanding performances. However he doesn't quite have that ability, and so he's likely to end up as one of the best of his generation, rather than one of the best ever.
    His on the pitch personality is selfish, immature, and irritating. Because of this no matter what performance he turns in, he's always going to be truly hated by many opposition supporters. He'll never get a standing ovation like Ronnie did at the Bernabeu or Ronaldo at Old Trafford in the CL. As for the defense of his tantrums as 'he just wants to play', what a load of bollocks. The guy is 24 for christ sake, not some 18 year old in his breakthrough season. I couldn't imagine a single profesional footballer who doesn't 'want to play', yet 99% of them never throw massive tantrums like he has.
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    messi got standing ovation once
    "I pass and I move, I help you, I look for you, I stop, I raise my head, I look and, above all, I open up the pitch...The one who has the ball, is the master of the game...That's the school of Joan Vilà, of Albert Benaiges, of Johan Cruijff, of Pep Guardiola" - Xavi Hernandez

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    Quote Originally Posted by diegomessi View Post
    messi got standing ovation once
    I actually remember 2 such instances - one agst Brazil in the WCQ's and other at Vicente Calderón in the cup game last season.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Raed View Post

    I am not trying to make him out to be some sort of impeccable footballer but much like David Beckham, he knows where his strengths lie, he knows where his weaknesses are. He tried to have fun on the soccer pitch every once in a while but he always plays to his strengths and is always focused. That you cannot take away from him, and if his career ended today, he will be greatly remembered and placed among the best in history. He doesn't posses the same ball control as Messi, nor does he have Figo's brilliance along the line, nor does he have Zidane's first touch and vision but he is fast and trained himself to be faster, he shoots well and trained himself to shoot better, he can read a potential pass and get into position, he is strong and trained to become faster. He is a top athlete with very good football skills (not excellent, but very good).
    Unfortunately for you Raed you undermine the one piece of rabid madridismo in that paragraph with the objective criticisms that make up the rest of what you've written. You yourself have given a list of reasons why if Ronaldo doesn't improve in various ways he won't be remembered as among the best in history. He has most of his career ahead of him, let's let him and Messi complete their careers before we try to place them in the annals of the game because God knows it's hard enough with players who have long since retired never mind those who are still playing and may do far more or far less in coming years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metaphysical View Post
    like I said, people don't like ronaldo for three reasons on here.

    1. he's a twat
    2. he played for united
    3. united beat us, and he beat messi to the ballon d'or (some cules can be very bitter)

    I mean, I think he's just a spoiled child who acts like one on the pitch (and looks scarily like his mother). he's a diver, a whinger, and pretty much a monumental cockbag. however, as a professional and sportsman he's excellent because he's ridiculously dedicated to training, etc., and very professional despite his twattery. and he seems like he'd be a laugh if you had him in a group of friends. however certain things (women, holidays and football) turn him into a... can you guess?

    and that's the thing (and now madridistas will haveta get used to defending him for this) - despite all his footballing achievements he will always be a monumental cockbag and his reputation will suffer for it. he will never be liked and loved by the masses beyond the realms of football, he's not charismatic or cool enough. and because of this he won't get the sporting praise he deserves, because saying "he's a cunt" is a lot easier than saying "he's a fantastic player and athlete, but off the pitch he sure is a cunt."

    kaka would get similar treatment but he disguises his wankery with two simple moves
    -he smiles and doesn't throw childish tantrums
    -he talks about/shows off his religion at every chance
    A lot of people would agree with that but I just don't like him because he's vastly overrated. People who think Ronaldo is better than Messi and Xavi don't deserve my time when they are quite clearly wrong.


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    Quote Originally Posted by VivaBarca View Post
    A lot of people would agree with that but I just don't like him because he's vastly overrated. People who think Ronaldo is better than Messi and Xavi don't deserve my time when they are quite clearly wrong.
    lol them people who think ronaldo is better than messi or xavi dont get the concept of teamwork..

    "but he scored 42 goal!!!!!!!!!" tehy never look at assist and compare

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cule Angles View Post
    Unfortunately for you Raed you undermine the one piece of rabid madridismo in that paragraph with the objective criticisms that make up the rest of what you've written. You yourself have given a list of reasons why if Ronaldo doesn't improve in various ways he won't be remembered as among the best in history. He has most of his career ahead of him, let's let him and Messi complete their careers before we try to place them in the annals of the game because God knows it's hard enough with players who have long since retired never mind those who are still playing and may do far more or far less in coming years.
    You know, maybe you are right. Maybe if his career ended today he wouldn't be remembered greatly but when the next generations are looking at past table and see Man U winning three on the trot they will remember Ronaldo. When they check Man U's CL win, they will remember Ronaldo.

    When they check Balld'or they will remember Ronaldo. They will remember his 42 goals. People will forget the attitude in my opinion and that he dated Paris Hilton. They won't care, he has created enough buzz to generate loud echos.

    At the end of the day what I find boggling and incredibly frustrating, is what frustrated you as well. The competition between Ronaldo and Messi has no longer become a healthy one, critizim of Ronaldo has no longer been objective and the worst part of all is that La Liga does not mean Deportivo, Malaga, Mallorca, Getafe and the likes of Zaragoza. All it means now a days to people is how much gel Ronaldo put on his hair and how he played on the weekend with a direct comparison to Messi. No objectivity, No diversity merely pages of exaggerated emotions towards him.

    There are far bigger assholes in my university who are chasing the cool with their daddy's money and BMW 645 and have barely anything to show for it. Look around the corner on your street, there are assholes just like him on the street and while we dislike them and will probably never associate them with our lives, we cannot forget that Ronaldo is just a human being. And no human being deserves this much attention.
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