Ernesto Valverde: An Analysis of his tenure

messi2140

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I find it weird that Messigician isn't carthwheeling over in the Koeman and Setien thread since Cows are seen as a sacred symbol in India. Especially since the former tends to them and the latter is named after them.
 
Messigician

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After the debacle against AS Roma in the Champions League, Valverde asked Bartomeu to sell Su?rez. Bartomeu said 'no', because it would have made Messi angry. [betev?]
 
Messigician

Messigician

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Idk what the fuck he did to make us have the best defence in Europe during the 17/18 season.

But it's clear it was close to magic.
 
Catta

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Messigician said:
Idk what the fuck he did to make us have the best defence in Europe during the 17/18 season.

But it's clear it was close to magic.
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Umtiti was great before his injury, 30 year old Pique was still world class, Busi in front of them was not useless like nowadays.
 
JohnN

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Amazing how the team managed to perform under this clown for so long. We had a decent squad then... Apart from raki, who always was crap.
 
mladenq

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JohnN said:
Amazing how the team managed to perform under this clown for so long. We had a decent squad then... Apart from raki, who always was crap.
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Wouldn't really say team was performing, we probably played the worst football in the last 20 years under that idiot, but he had a younger squad and Messi was pretty much solo winning most of the games, so the results were better. Messi under Setien/Koeman and under Valverde are almost two completely different players. It was painful to watch him last night.

Don't think I'll ever forget just how god-awful we played under Valverde, and the amount of incredibly unbelievably idiotic decisions that guy could make pre and during one game, and still end up winning by one goal margin, due to some lucky deflection or Messi pulling some ridiculous solo shit.
 
Fati_Future_BallonDor

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mladenq said:
Wouldn't really say team was performing, we probably played the worst football in the last 20 years under that idiot, but he had a younger squad and Messi was pretty much solo winning most of the games, so the results were better. Messi under Setien/Koeman and under Valverde are almost two completely different players. It was painful to watch him last night.

Don't think I'll ever forget just how god-awful we played under Valverde, and the amount of incredibly unbelievably idiotic decisions that guy could make pre and during one game, and still end up winning by one goal margin, due to some lucky deflection or Messi pulling some ridiculous solo shit.
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Yeah Messi in 17-18 and 18-19 in la liga was fucking unbelievable. The Messi from 2020 isnt even 40% from the old Messi.
 
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Morten

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Fati_Future_BallonDor said:
Yeah Messi in 17-18 and 18-19 in la liga was fucking unbelievable. The Messi from 2020 isnt even 40% from the old Messi.
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Messi 18-19 was especially incredible in the CL, one of the best CL-campaigns ever, he really was being serious with his statement at the start of that season at the Camp Nou.
When he hit that ludicrous free kick against Liverpool i was thinking "yeah, what on earth is going to stop them from winning it now?", then the team left him down at Anfield.
Guess he just didnt feel the same after that, all that work and he got nothing for it.
 
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