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    Quote Originally Posted by Trillske View Post
    I´ve concidered Germany better than netherlands for a long time. They are both top teams, but Germany has in my opinion been totaly awesome ever since 2006, they´ve just lacked some luck.
    Well, no, they've just not been good enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myrmecophile View Post
    Well, no, they've just not been good enough.
    Yep...But now, they are formidable
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    germany only score sweaty goals

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myrmecophile View Post
    Well, no, they've just not been good enough.
    Keep your opinions yours, its a terrible thing to lose.
    These are all facts IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trillske View Post
    Keep your opinions yours, its a terrible thing to lose.
    I have no idea what you're trying to say here.

    In '08 and '10 they were good but not good enough. Spain beat them fairly comfortably both times without luck. In other words, Germany were not unlucky or controversially put out of the tournament they just came up against a superior team. I don't see how anyone can disagree with this
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    i think he means they were unlucky in the sense that they versed a better team and got outplayed

    amirite?

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    Not being as good is not down to luck it's just quality shining through. Right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myrmecophile View Post
    I have no idea what you're trying to say here.

    In '08 and '10 they were good but not good enough. Spain beat them fairly comfortably both times without luck. In other words, Germany were not unlucky or controversially put out of the tournament they just came up against a superior team. I don't see how anyone can disagree with this
    Spain was better, their defense was out of this world both euro 08 and wc 10.
    Its just that I never mentioned anything about spain.

    In my opinion Germany have jumped between the number 1 and 2 spot for a good while. Netherlands have often been called the second best team in the world after the last wc, and while its a really good team I really dont agree.
    Last edited by Trillske; 16th November 2011 at 01:28 PM.
    These are all facts IMO.

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    A nice open attacking game. I think Netherlands and Germany are about the same, and still the edge to Netherlands. Last night Germany was more patient, pressed better and Holland was a bit sloppy on their passes. No Robben, RVP, Van der Vaart. Excellent movement by Germany, and about perfect with their counterattack aerial game. Netherlands just weren't reading each other well- at least twice on the attack a player let a ball through for another player who was already moving to another position. The intent was excellent, but the timing was a hair off. Many of their moves were excellent, classic Dutch slick passing.

    Like Spain's losses/ties in friendlies since WC2010, I wouldn't take this as too representative.
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    Alas before 08 and 10 Spain took friendly games far more seriously and far more intensely thus getting their preparation just right.

    You keep in losing in friendly matches you lose your momentum and come tournament time it is a struggle to regain that momentum.
    Football is a simple game, complicated by idiots.

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    they cant jump out of rythm, 3/4 of the starting XI is playing for the same team and rest are super quality players that fit the system...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yugi View Post
    they cant jump out of rythm, 3/4 of the starting XI is playing for the same team and rest are super quality players that fit the system...
    Doesn't matter. It is a totally different mind set and different psychology when playing for the national side again. You remember those previous defeats and it becomes harder to regain the momentum once you lose it.
    Football is a simple game, complicated by idiots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnfieldEd View Post
    Doesn't matter. It is a totally different mind set and different psychology when playing for the national side again. You remember those previous defeats and it becomes harder to regain the momentum once you lose it.
    What "momentum"? The Euro Cup doesn't start next week, it begins in 7 months. I don't think Xavi will be psychologically battered then (after lifting a treble ) because Spain drew a match against Costa Rica almost a year ago. The problem of del Bosque not seeing what the whole world sees is the far bigger problem here:

    http://www.zonalmarking.net/2011/11/...ine-euro-2012/
    (...) and Carrick was faced with Xavi and Iniesta coming past him, and Messi in behind him. That’s 3rd, 2nd and 1st in last year’s World Footballer of the Year award forming a triangle around him – he desperately needed help (...)

    - ZonalMarking

    Barca hold a key advantage here again, however, where Busquets has carved out a niche in shadowing deep-lying attackers. He knows what they eat for breakfast.

    - Paul Morrissey

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    Stat of the day.

    In the last 4 games Spain scored 8 goals.

    - 8 with Busquets as a lone holding midfielder on the pitch.
    - 0 with Xabi Alonso on the pitch.

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    (...) and Carrick was faced with Xavi and Iniesta coming past him, and Messi in behind him. That’s 3rd, 2nd and 1st in last year’s World Footballer of the Year award forming a triangle around him – he desperately needed help (...)

    - ZonalMarking

    Barca hold a key advantage here again, however, where Busquets has carved out a niche in shadowing deep-lying attackers. He knows what they eat for breakfast.

    - Paul Morrissey

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    Hamburg XI – Ronaldo, Zidane & Friends

    featuring former stars like zidane, ronaldo, davids, barthez, makelele, pieres, figo etc

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=WaZJTV_koCg
    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xmy...t=1#from=embed
    Last edited by xaviniesta; 14th December 2011 at 07:57 AM.

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