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    Lliga | Round 21: Valencia CF - FC Barcelona 2-0

    La Liga Round 21

    Saturday, January 25, 16:00CET


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    Big game after 1 so-so and 1 bad performance.

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    2 bad performances imo, with a coach that looked like experimenting without coherence.

    Pretty sure Setien will be back petting cows in his backyard come September, but i doubt the board will get us that top class coach we need, or somebody with the balls to go to town on this washed up team and make big changes.

    Valencia puts us on the spot frequently @ their home ground and i expect nothing else but a very tough 1st half, were we probably will concede and than chase for an equalizer, with Griezz on the left, no attacking options and Messi stuck in the middle of the field.

    My optimism is amazing today )

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    I don't expect shit so I can only get a nice surprise
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuchi View Post
    or somebody with the balls to go to town on this washed up team and make big changes.
    What do you expect exactly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alik View Post
    What do you expect exactly?
    Replacing the old guard once and for all, as they are done, both physically and especially mentally and will get us nowhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuchi View Post
    Replacing the old guard once and for all, as they are done, both physically and especially mentally and will get us nowhere.
    Ok, because Setien hasn't had the chance to do that.

    Tactics and training wise, just 2 matches have passed, and for better or for worse, big changes are noticeable.

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    I believe we will play something like:

    ----------------- Mats ------------------
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    -----Sergi-------Pique------Umtiti-----
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    -----------------Busquets---------------
    ----------Vidal------------FDJ-----------
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    --Fati-----------------------------Alba--
    -----------Messi-------Griez------------
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    With Alba dropping at LB during defence and Griezmann moving to the left also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alik View Post
    Ok, because Setien hasn't had the chance to do that.

    Tactics and training wise, just 2 matches have passed, and for better or for worse, big changes are noticeable.
    I know it's been 2 games man, i just want to see a plan catching form, a direction, kind of expected a coach to have that from day 1.

    Anyway, it will take a lot more than a new coach to rebuild.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuchi View Post
    Anyway, it will take a lot more than a new coach to rebuild.
    Sadly... and not just new players too... the fish stinks from the head.
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    I think this game is decided solely by the players' mentality and motivation. I just hope Quique doesn't experiment too much, the game is already tough as it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnN View Post
    I believe we will play something like:

    ----------------- Mats ------------------
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    -----Sergi-------Pique------Umtiti-----
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    -----------------Busquets---------------
    ----------Vidal------------FDJ-----------
    ------------------------------------------
    --Fati-----------------------------Alba--
    -----------Messi-------Griez------------
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    Seems like Setien doesn't want the job for more than a couple of months then. Why the fuck would you play 3-4-3 with a crocked Umiti, nearly retired Pique and "utilitarian donkey RB/DMC/MC but no way CB" Roberto?!

    Also, I wouldn't even bother in this kind of game with Fati. The kid needs games but not Valencia away.
    Last edited by malvolio; 23rd January 2020 at 02:15 PM.

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    I hope he gets to his senses and ditches the 3 at the back shit. Why mess with the 4-3-3? You push the FBs up on build-up and you get a perfect 2-5-3. Which is better than a 3-5-2. Most teams defend with a 4-5-1 against us. You keep 3 defenders for only 1 opponent. Why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by serghei View Post
    I hope he gets to his senses and ditches the 3 at the back shit. Why mess with the 4-3-3? You push the FBs up on build-up and you get a perfect 2-5-3. Which is better than a 3-5-2. Most teams defend with a 4-5-1 against us. You keep 3 defenders for only 1 opponent. Why?
    It's baffling. If I see 3 at the back v Valencia, time to get the pitchforks out. My issue is lesser with the notion of 3 at the back (although I believe it's inferior to 4-3-3) and more so that we lack the type of fast/mobile/proficient tackling CBs to pull it off.

    Most top teams would turn our left and right CBs inside out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnN View Post
    I believe we will play something like:

    ----------------- Mats ------------------
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    -----Sergi-------Pique------Umtiti-----
    ------------------------------------------
    -----------------Busquets---------------
    ----------Vidal------------FDJ-----------
    ------------------------------------------
    --Fati-----------------------------Alba--
    -----------Messi-------Griez------------
    ------------------------------------------

    With Alba dropping at LB during defence and Griezmann moving to the left also.
    If he's intent on playing Griezmann more to the left then I'd honestly like to see Perez getting the starting spot over Fati on that right side until Dembele returns in like 3 weeks hopefully.