Barcelona finances
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Barca_Ray_USA
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I wonder if Barca will feel the hit of the current crisis
FCB-Michael
Mack the Knife
So far so good. We are 3rd in the richest clubs list. Winning La Liga ought to bring us some extra profit. Don`t know about the shirt sales since Ronaldinho left and the Asian market though
barca7788
Nepali Cule
Don`t worry mate. I dont think anyone sells as much shirts as MESSI does these days.
FCB-Michael
Mack the Knife
Much will depend on how we finish the season. Cl prizes are nothing to sneer at
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FC Barca11
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Absolutely. If I'm not mistaken, the winner of the Uefa Cup takes home as much as a competitor who makes it to the quarter-finals of the Champions League.
While not strictly a focus on Barca's finances (so many of their numbers are suspect and hard to come by), here is an article on the current plight of La Liga.
http://www.snippetsoccer.com/?p=818
TV rights distribution is :smiley_scared:
Difference between Premier and La Liga TV deals is basically this. EPL teams get paid from the same pool (Sky, if I`m not mistaken) and Spanish teams negotiate the deals themselves. With us and Madrid taking most of the coverage, leaving others with scraps.
I don`t agree with the statement from the blog " EPL is a better packaged product". Advantage of English language in contrast to others is vast but also widely overlooked. And we all know the language of the media is...
I don`t agree with the statement from the blog " EPL is a better packaged product". Advantage of English language in contrast to others is vast but also widely overlooked. And we all know the language of the media is...
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FC Barca11
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That difference has played a significant role in the financial health of the clubs in the La Liga. The EPL is a better packaged product because of the FA's approach to the Premier League. They understood that the most viable business model for the sustainability of quality in their league would be to distribute the money from T.V rights. In order to ensure they could get the most out of it, the FA did a lot to improve their administrative side, everything from player contracts to quality standards concerning club infrastructure. Of course, not all clubs are perfect in the EPL, but the overall quality across the league is far better in the EPL than it is in La Liga. There is more stability in the smaller clubs in the EPL than there are in La Liga in terms of player contracts, players getting paid etc. A large majority of Spanish players and other former Liga players have often commented on the different ways EPL clubs are run and come to the conclusion that its better.
The LFP had a great chance to really help La Liga in the hay day of Spanish clubs. In the early 2000s when Barcelona, Real Madrid, Valencia, Deportivo were dominating the Champions League, the LFP could have really used that has as a significant bargaining chip to promote the league worldwide. Instead they stuck to this asinine model of individual negotiations and now stand to see half their table implode.
I understand the role of language. However, with the attendance figures and record viewership numbers the larger clubs were getting, many broadcasters would have covered the games in english as they do now. That trend was going to happen anyway, and the LFP should have realized it. These days la liga is heavily covered in English and the language appeal isnt a problem at all. I blame the LFP for a lot of the trouble this league is facing now. Spain could have easily been where England is in terms of revenue, global appeal etc.
I disagree on few points. In my eyes, La Liga was where Premiership is now and is still in a good position to get back there.
Few corner stone reasons: More home grown talented players and 2: Not as dependent on whims of a certain sheiks or oil magnates.
More than few people will argue that the reason for dramatic rise of EPL is due to a big influx of money that came from those tycoons that entered the league. From ManUtd, Liverpool, Chelsea... to pretty much every low team like Fulham.
As for the league strengths... I won`t vent my subjective reasons so let`s look at Uefa coefficients. They do have England better ranked but the gap is very small to draw conclusions. Certainly very small when compared to other countries.
Having said that I`d like to introduce another fact. British pound versus Euro.
To put it plastic. Compared to Europe, prices in Britain are higher but so is the purchasing power and in an open market it shows as a big advantage for English clubs.
And I still believe that the English language factor is an immense advantage which is still underestimated.
How many times have did you find yourself switching the channel when you heard the language you did not understand?
Few corner stone reasons: More home grown talented players and 2: Not as dependent on whims of a certain sheiks or oil magnates.
More than few people will argue that the reason for dramatic rise of EPL is due to a big influx of money that came from those tycoons that entered the league. From ManUtd, Liverpool, Chelsea... to pretty much every low team like Fulham.
As for the league strengths... I won`t vent my subjective reasons so let`s look at Uefa coefficients. They do have England better ranked but the gap is very small to draw conclusions. Certainly very small when compared to other countries.
Having said that I`d like to introduce another fact. British pound versus Euro.
To put it plastic. Compared to Europe, prices in Britain are higher but so is the purchasing power and in an open market it shows as a big advantage for English clubs.
And I still believe that the English language factor is an immense advantage which is still underestimated.
How many times have did you find yourself switching the channel when you heard the language you did not understand?
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FC Barca11
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You're right in that La Liga has more home grown talented players. But whats the use if Liga clubs can't afford to keep them on their books and are always looking to sell?
Ah very true, they are at the mercy of their owners. But ask yourself this. Roman Abrahamovic bought Chelsea (the first billionaire acquisition) in 2003, and not Valencia or Deportivo. Both clubs had more success than Chelsea at the time of the acquisition, so why the EPL? The Glazers didn't come in till after that, and Randy Lerner, Tom Hicks and George Gillette came in much later. Even after this trend of billionaires buying into clubs, where are the billionaires in La Liga? Real Mallorca are desperate for one. Many of these owners know that tv rights are a lucrative affair, and the money is and has been in the EPL. As such they will always flock there.
While tycoons do play a big role in the club, with the currect economic crisis they are no longer free to spend as they wish (unless you're an Abu Dhabi sheik). But even with Fulham, banks would rather lend to them versus a Real Mallorca.
Uefa coefficients are iffy to begin with. As you said, gap is too small to really draw a conclusion out of just this.
It's an advantage if you're at a disadvantage to begin with. In an open market the price will be set by demand. Clubs have the opportunity to set their valuation price. Case in point would be Jean-Michel Aulas. If you're the owner of the player, you get to set the price. And if you get to set the price, you get to compensate for the purchasing power.
And I still believe that the English language factor is an immense advantage which is still underestimated.
How many times have did you find yourself switching the channel when you heard the language you did not understand?
If its a program that has a plot, main characters, supporting cast etc. then yea, I probably would change the channel because I won't understand a lick of it. But football is like pornography. Everyone understands the goal of the situation and no one really needs to hear the "commentators"
Still I get what you're saying...
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barca7788
Nepali Cule
Barcelona's recent successes are apparently costing them money. A victory in the "Copa de Rey" could cost them more in bonus payments than in takings, and the intense programme of games in three competitions means they are not able to play more lucrative friendly matches. Meanwhile takings are generally down, and the club are involved in the middle of a €30 million battle for TV rights between the local television company TV3 and Sogecable.
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