Ernesto Valverde

Havesaks

Senior Member
Due to various reasons we have had different playing styles in the first 2 years. First year due to the loss of Neymar and old strikers, we played 4-4-2 crowding the midfield and with paulinho as a kinda third strikker creating the space with his runs up and down. A gameplan which secured to play Messi in kinda a hybrid role and play to his strenghts and we basically won the leauge before Christmas break. That was really good work from valverde. Then 21 y.o. 150mDembele returned from 4+1 month injury half way through the season who was a New addition to our team, and didnt suit our playing style that well surrounded by slow players all around, while also coutinho was bought for 150m, and both players were expected to be fielded. It wasnt possible, Coutinho just wasnt an option with Rakitic and Sergio as our Best midfielders. The Guy needs hardworking running players to compensate for his flaws add to that messi-walking. So we still changed to 4-3-3 halfway through the season because it's Barca and fans needed to be pleased. Dembele got injuried again. Coutinho did barely contribute - we won the double by cruising it home. All things considered and the circumstances valverde had to work under, the season was a bug succes despite rome. Players did have definer roles such as paulinho, Suarez, Rakitic, Sergio, alba, Messi... Paulinho ran, made 1-2s with Messi, Messi had freedom to create and find good spots, alba was introduced as a 4th strikker / Messi alba connection, raki-Sergio were the glue (shitty glue tho) in midfield and so on.

Second season we got Arthur as a New addition, who in fact wasnt ready to play a whole season as a starter. So with the options in midfield avaiæable it did make sense to play raki-sergio-arthur/vidal, because No fucking better players were avaiæable. And with Rakitic, Sergio and on top of that Messi+Suarez+coutinho+Dembele, it made sense to play a more reactive type of football. Our squad was old and slow, and especially the core players of our team were old and slow. So yes, valverde prioritized routine, a reactive pose and a midfield and attack which focussed on the mistakes of other teams. It's style and it gave us a decent shot in all 3 competions. The progress of the team didnt stagnate more than it would have anyway?

The fault isnt valverdes, but Neymar, the sporting sector's for buying not-compatible players and the natural end of an era. Because this team has been undergoing a serious transistion face especially because of our socalled Messi successor turned his back on us.

Now we finally have a midfield which does give us the option, to work on some more advanced tactical facets.

Edit: we Will have a decent shot in all 3 competions, our general gameplan Will improve a lot and our style Will be more defined.

Also do note, that valverde clearly doesn't get the player/profiles he actual think would improve our team, but gets Them thrown i to his face: griezmann, Coutinho, Dembele... The player he really wanted which we actually bought, paulinho, was a huge success. And the Guys contribution has been way underrated. Valverde has been screaming for actual winger (Willian) and now somwhow with a poormans Pedro version and a 16 year old tradional winger, we actually create some width and space and dynamics. Hola.
People need to get, that the player profiles need to be compatible, and they havent been for a long time. Pep and klopp get every thing they point their finger on. Players who fit their system. Valverde doesn't. Valverde gets galactiocs. Which basically was Madrids downfall in 00's.
 
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DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
Jesus christ, what did I just read.

I'm sorry, I'm not even going to bother. I just give up.

Being a fan is good, being a fanatic is not.
 

Devils

Senior Member
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The worst day in the history of FC Barcelona.

Valverde is and will always be a piece of shit.
 

Riordon

New member
We are fucked. Expected goals for this match was worse than Roma and Liverpool by FAR, don’t let the tee Steven performance foul you. We are worse than last year now

Shit, shit performance.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Goalimpact/status/1174064953734705153/photo/1
 
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Messigician

Senior Member
Relax no goals conceded away from home is a very good result.

We need to focus on destroying opponents at home and minimising damage done to us away to win the treble.
 

DonAndres

Wild Man of Borneo
5 games this season. 2 wins, 2 draws, 1 loss. We haven't won a single away game, but even bigger than that we've looked like the absolutely worse side in every one of those games and been pretty much dominated.

It's one thing to draw to Osasuna and Dortmund, and lose to Athletic. That is straight up bad enough. But we've literally been outshot 39 to 26 in our away games. The opponent outshot us in every one of those games. Fucking Osasuna of all teams almost DOUBLED us in shots, 15-8. For fucks sake.

We actually have delusional apologists out there on twitter and r/Barca sipping their tea saying "but muh ackshually El Sadar is a very tough game and we are lucky to get points :coffee:"

FUCK.

The absolute fucking state of this club and its fanbase. The incredibly high level of pessimism in this forum is the only thing that gets anywhere NEAR to the truth, most of twitter/reddit is completely retarded in comparison. And even then you have idiots like [MENTION=23863]Tackle[/MENTION] and [MENTION=16942]BBZ8800[/MENTION] saying "our best course of action is to just stick with Valverde anyway because it's impossible to do better and no one else could actually do any better for us". And Tackle going further and saying "support Valverde to support the club otherwise you're a fucking plastic fan who has no clue about priorities".

The start of this season is basically a picture preview of how we're going to get bent over in dominated in CL knockout away games, a perfect illustration.
 
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henias

New member
Apologists are always fcking pathetic, they come back here like roaches. Needless to say. Some even has to cheek to say they are not a fanboy when they are clearly going all lengths to give every excuse in the world for Valverde. Let's hope for a treble or a CL every season like delusional cucks. A one billion dollar cheque and Lionel Messi cant even save his dear life.
 

snowy

New member
Relax no goals conceded away from home is a very good result.

We need to focus on destroying opponents at home and minimising damage done to us away to win the treble.

nah dude, gotta aim higher than that and fix this AWAY circus once and for all.

Bart should hire a Master Serg to shake things up. Weed out the delicate daisies with specops training at Drowning Creek, catch King Cobra at camp Akat and for Bouzman, free SPA treatment with the GIGN haha

we'd prob get 100% ding da bell but they'd still come out stronger and they'll be starving to draw blood n kick ass at Anfield. It's gonna be cool!


Who Dares Wins
 

EdmondDantes

New member
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Some really good line-ups lately. Keep it up. Sort the midfield dynamics with Arthur and De Jong and maybe we're going somewhere this season. Just maybe it is not set in stone for this season to be a failure in Europe too.

I would completely toss aside Roma and Liverpool for a CL title this season. All would be forgiven and forgotten.

Yeah, Arthur and Frenkie are looking like absolute gold. And they haven't even gelled yet.
 

Gaudi

Senior Member
I trully can't believe someone still has a nice thing to say about him...ok, we lack Xavi, Iniesta, this one is slow, this one has ugly hair..whatever, but a team that has FIFA game type of players to put ONE (again ONEEEEE) shoot on goal, come on!
 

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