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    It's funny cus Lucho got absolutely destroyed on this forum 2 years ago.

    I randomly browsed through the Lucho thread for 10 minutes.

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    Lucho is 1) a tactical nightmare, 2) incapable of motivating the squad and 3) is clueless when it comes to transfers.

    Those a three things that any basic coach should be able to do. Lucho has failed spectacularly on all these fronts this season. Even if you disregard the transfers, if we had a manager who could organize us tactically and motivate the squad we could have done much better this year.We wouldn't have been good enough to win the CL but we wouldn't of have dropped anywhere near as many points as we did in La Liga against small teams.
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    We're not a stacked Barcelona team like in the Pep era this season, we're a very average side minus having the best attack in Europe. The bar has been set so low in our RB, CB ( reference Mathieu who frequently plays) and midfield positions that it's hard to believe anything else available could have been worse than what we had.
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    Lucho can be praised for his results but being a manager isn't just about results.

    Lucho did nothing to build us for the future, he eroded our identity to the point where we have a non-existent midfield and rely on 3 individuals to win us games and he wasted two years of transfers and massive amounts of capital on mostly terrible signings.

    So Lucho leaves us with no identity or style of play, a bunch of (expensive) dead weight that we need to clear out and huge investments in transfers required to address an unbalanced and disjointed team.
    Now the same guy who in 2017 said that the team was very average bar the attack, had no identitiy, a non-existent midfield and was unbalanced and disjointed suddenly argues with me that Barca is actually great. After team lost Neymar, Iniesta, Alves, Umtiti and everyone else got 2 years older. You couldn't make it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by serghei View Post
    It's funny cause it's true.
    Then explain yourself.

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    When players have the wrong attitude in two CL away games in a row, that's purely on the manager. That means he doesn't prepare the match well. The most important part of match preparation is making sure the players have the right a) attitude, b) tactics, and c) fitness level required to perform to the required level. Lucho has done a piss poor job on all three.
    Football fans and their famous attention span.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Observer View Post
    It's funny cus Lucho got absolutely destroyed on this forum 2 years ago.

    I randomly browsed through the Lucho thread for 10 minutes.







    Now the same guy who in 2017 said that the team was very average bar the attack, had no identitiy, a non-existent midfield and was unbalanced and disjointed suddenly argues with me that Barca is actually great. After team lost Neymar, Iniesta, Alves, Umtiti and everyone else got 2 years older. You couldn't make it up.
    Except we've spent over 500m on transfers since 2017, clown. And most of that was on young players.

    But continue to defend a manager that still uses that same midfield and attack that those posts from 2017 were criticizing despite having other options.

    You're only further proving my point that even after spending so much money on players since 2017, our clueless manager still opts for the same old shit.

    Btw I never said this Barca team was 'great'. But it is certainly has the quality to prevent the historically humiliating 3-0 and 4-0 defeats in Rome and Liverpool respectively.
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    We have our clueless shithouse manager to thank for that though.
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    Lucho certainly had his flaws and wasn't world class but he was leagues better than this cowardly shitstain.

    At least he wouldn't give the seniors a free ride.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Observer View Post
    Then explain yourself.



    Football fans and their famous attention span.
    Lol, how does Lucho and his obvious flaws (like getting lumberjack smoker Jeremy fucking Matthieu to defend Cuadrado, one of the fastest and most agile players in the world) change the fact that he was also bold and positive, while Valverde looks like a coward and a negative manager every time he opens his mouth in a press conference?

    In fact, I often said neither manager we had post Guardiola was a lot better than just decent. Look it up. Lucho was still 1 level above Valverde. He was actually borderline ok if not for his tactical flaws and issues motivating the players towards the end of his tenure at Barcelona.

    Btw, I'd take Lucho back right now instead of Valverde in an instant. Yes, he wasn't a very good tactician, but he got plenty of other things right. Under him last season, not to mention this season, no way does Rakitic get more than a squad player role. He was already on the outs when the alternative was Gomes. Imagine now, with Arthur and Frenkie lined up.

    Lucho actually made some steps towards replacing some of the veterans but the transfers and some of the players he approved were really bad (like Arda). Now the quality is considerably higher as we have better younger players, but the manager a veteran-loving idiot. We never seem to get these two right.

    I tell you, these ridiculous Valverde apologists sound like they're all plastic puppets assembled on a Chinese boat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devils View Post
    Except we've spent over 500m on transfers since 2017, clown. And most of that was on young players.

    But continue to defend a manager that still uses that same midfield and attack that those posts from 2017 were criticizing despite having other options.

    You're only further proving my point that even after spending so much money on players since 2017, our clueless manager still opts for the same old shit.

    Btw I never said this Barca team was 'great'. But it is certainly has the quality to prevent the historically humiliating 3-0 and 4-0 defeats in Rome and Liverpool respectively.
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    We have our clueless shithouse manager to thank for that though.
    Very dishonest post.

    Bought Lenglet who is doing well but is still inferior talent to what Umtiti used to be.

    Bought Coutinho who is inferior to what Iniesta used to be and has no real position in modern football.

    Bought Dembélé who is inferior to what Neymar used to be and constantly injured.

    Bought Semedo who is inferior to what Alves used to be.

    Rest of the team got older and declined further.

    Only Arthur helped in midfield but still does not outweigh decline of Rakitic and Busquets and Iniesta loss.

    Defense and midfield is even worse than 2017 and attack lost Neymar and Suarez is much worse. And you already called the team "average bar attack" in 2017.

    If you would be honest you would know this is the truth. If you are dishonest you will try to argue around it with money spent. Spending many Euros on worse players doesn't help your logic though, Euros don't play on the pitch.

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    Hopefully he wont last the entire season

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    Quote Originally Posted by El MeSSiaS View Post
    Hopefully he wont last the entire season
    He is leaving in the summer of 2020 anyway, so we might as well win something important this next season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by serghei View Post
    He is leaving in the summer of 2020 anyway, so we might as well win something important this next season.
    I love how people assume this without facts lmao

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    Quote Originally Posted by Messigician View Post
    I love how people assume this without facts lmao
    His contract expires in 2020, Sherlock. Nobody would extend Valverde twice lol .

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    Valverde will last until Barto is gone.. sadly. if Anfield wasnt enough, no way is this guy getting sacked - they'll give him another contract this year

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    Quote Originally Posted by serghei View Post
    His contract expires in 2020, Sherlock. Nobody would extend Valverde twice lol .
    That's what people said before the first extension...