so Valverde got more out of Messi then?
Ernesto Valverde
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so Valverde got more out of Messi then?
KingLeo10
Senior Member
Or it could be that that Messi was younger and hungrier.
Maybe it's a combination of both. I tend to think Messi is Messi, in that he's largely responsible for his output. He scored 50 goals a season for 4 different managers before EV. Regardless, it's interesting to see you cartwheeling for ole EV these days FCB1987.
FinBarcelonafan
Well-known member
Messi has missed 71 kicks or whatever it's now in open play. His kicks look slow and awfully placed. Messis level has dropped. A lot. He is still getting chances but not finishing them.
Stupid Cowman not using his damn time machine
Messigician
Senior Member
Yes yes we all miss them but that ship has sailed
Maybe he could teach Bellerin to take a proper throw-in, that alone would improve them.
khaled_a_d
Senior Member
Age is valid, but Messi form fell from a cliff after EV left tbh. A year doesn't do that to a player
FinBarcelonafan
Well-known member
Exactly. Valverde is the guy who started all this. It was coming to an end before he left. We played super shit football, yet kept barely winning.
He did avert the disaster which started under Lucho in 16-17
BarcaOG
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right, because it wasnt EV who 'masterminded' the roma and anfield debacles...
/sarcasm
nope, it was the same players who masterminded PSG and Juve before him in 2017 and Bayern and Juve in 2020.
BarcaOG
Banned
facepalm.
man, i dont think its likely but itd be so great to see EV go to arsenal and fail epicly there. just so you morons can see just how incompetent he is as a manager
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