Lionel Messi - v7
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FinBarcelonafan
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I thought he was scoring only because of Valverde.
Mrgandalf
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luck was all Di Matteo had...or even Zidane.
Real still had Ramos and Pepe who were big game players and Marcelo who would get them on the front foot and Casemiro to cover. Modric and Kroos would dominate the midfield and Ronaldo/Benzema/Bale would get the goals.
With this Barca it's all Messi. The last CL winning team had Neymar and Suarez at a very high level, Busquets was still a leading DM, Iniesta was still in the team and Rakitic was a lot better. Added to that Pique and Alba at their peak.
Luck but Real always had loads of quality all over the pitch which this Barca don't.
Chelsea did just defend really well (the Barca tie and the final) as well as getting crazy luck. Barca are just dependent on Messi and if he doesn't show up as GOAT away from home in CL then Barca get thrashed (PSG/Juve/Roma/Liverpool). Valverde wanted to just keep things tight and let Messi decide the game which worked domestically but the two disasters in CL killed him.
Mrgandalf
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not agree with this part. As far as i can remember we actually killed them. They was all about luck. 23 shots and 2 goals.
Nazario1985
Senior Member
Just remember that We never had a huge defense in any way we just were monster in controlling the game, and not stupid when loosing the ball.
Our current backline is .... too much garbage.
Vilarrubi
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henias
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Did you mean princess?
serghei
Senior Member
Yea, can't believe how many chances we've missed both home and away. With even decent finishing we should've won that tie by a good 2-3 goals margin.
KingLeo10
Senior Member
That Camp Nou game v Chelsea in 2012 and the 2016 2-1 W over AM were the 2 biggest sieges I've ever seen in a football game. We battered them thoroughly and I don't know how we only managed 2 goals in each game.
Bayern v AM at Allianz in 2016 is another great siege. Bayern also only managed 2 goals.
henias
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Football doesnt work that way, if you are not winning, then either the forwards are not dangerous or clinical enough to break the defence or too little quality big chances created, usually just desperate attempts shooting at goal. It's always a battle between defence and attack, if you fail then you've failed. There's no what if, could have, would have, or should have. There are already 2 legs to ensure a fairer tie rather than just one game. Unless there's a major refereeing error, than otherwise we should just accept the result and try again.
bismp
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Even if we would have went through,I doubt that we would have beaten Bayern in 2012.That team was considerably worse than 09-11.
But yeah,that shit was depressing.In fact,that week(losing at the Stamford Bridge,losing vs Real at the Camp Nou and effectively losing the league and finally getting eliminated vs Chelsea at the Camp Nou) is one of my most vivid memories as a Barca fan.
But yeah,that shit was depressing.In fact,that week(losing at the Stamford Bridge,losing vs Real at the Camp Nou and effectively losing the league and finally getting eliminated vs Chelsea at the Camp Nou) is one of my most vivid memories as a Barca fan.
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