Lionel Messi - v7
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Vilarrubi
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They are ridiculous numbers but he signed that deal in 2017. If COVID hadn’t happened all of this would likely have never come out.
Also if you put yourself in Messi’s shoes or anyone else signing a contract, when signing it would you stop and think “maybe this organisation can’t afford this or will be in financial trouble because of this contract”..... not a chance. You sign a contract in full confidence that the club/business you work for can pay it.
Also the players took a wage cut this season totalling 120m.
The wage being that high in the first place is a problem. But not Messi’s. Club was willing to pay it at the time. The whole wage structure and fees we’ve been paying for all players are outrageous. For example Griezmann is 120m fee + reported 45m a season over 5 years. That’s 345m for Griezmann....
BBZ8800
Senior Member
That's the price of being on top of the world from 2006-2011, or 2008-2011.
We bought our own hype.
Fans, media, board and even the players started to believe that everything we did was a pure gold and that all we had to do is to replicate or keep that moment/era, for example:
1. In terms of tactics, we are screwed. For the next 20 years we will go forth and back and chase Pep's ghosts
2. In terms of players, the same. Football world has evolved, yet our fans are falling into a delirium for signings/new kids like fckng Arthur and Riki Puig
3. In terms of a board, they thought that our team from 2011 was the best and all we had to do is to keep those players forever, under huge contracts. They thought that it would pay off, since we all thought that those were the best players who have ever walked on Earth.
Messi, Busi, Xavi, Iniesta, Pique, some of them are still here 10 years later under insane contracts, yet we won only 1 Cl after 2011 even though we had the highest paid team in the world.
So, even in terms of the board, we paid the price of success and hype in 2011, and we are still paying it in 2021.
What happened to us after 2011 is similar to those Disney movies superstars who become too popular, they buy they own hype and turn into junkies and die aged 27.
Barca, our board, our players, our media and even our fans weren't ready for so much glory and success.
Imo, it will take a lot of years until we will be healthy again: mentally, financially and tactically.
Regarding our wages, it is all a domino effect connected with 2011:
1. We were the best in the world
2. The board decided to keep our players no matter what, paying a pure gold
3. Other players from the team also wanted a pay rise
4. All new signings wanted huge wages since all of our players already had enormous wages
5. After 2-3 years, in 2014/2015, when our players signed extensions, they asked for even more money, because: that's how it goes, you get more and more with new extensions
6. In 2017 or 2018, during 2nd extensions, they asked for even more than in 2011 or 2015
= and voila, that's how we turned into a club with more than 1b Euros of short term debt
So, guys, a life lesson: if you'll ever earn big money in your real life, don't implode and die like teen Disney superstars or Fc Barcelona after 2011.
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Yannik
Senior Member
Laporta claims they conducted some "study" that says he generates 1/3 of Barcas whole income.
I would generally say that sounds like BS.
BBZ8800
Senior Member
If I am not mistaken, that study is including our earnings based on Messi in 2017, 2018 and 2019 when he was an awesome player.
Back then we didn't mind his salaries because he was bringing money and trophies.
Today in 2020 and 2021:
1. He is not bringing trophies
2. His goals have dried up
3. We have corona pandemic
4. There are no fans at stadiums
5. Fans travel less, they visit our museum less, they probably buy less Messi's shirts
6. The whole world is in financial problems and everyone are earning less
It would be interesting to see how much is Messi bringing to a team who lost 8:2 to Bayern and will probably get KO'd in 1/8 this season, paired with no fans on stadiums and zero trophies.
Messi's wages made sense in 2017.
They don't make sense in 2021.
He wanted to leave last year, the club forced him to stay.
malvolio
Senior Member
sporting prestige brings money and good image for the players who join us. do you think they join a club of this stature just to earn less? they might agree to earn a little less in salary, but they make up for it with other endorsements because they join a club with a bigger exposure.
it's all about money, for every player in the world. the days of romantic football are long gone.
Yannik
Senior Member
Study basically says it cannot quantify in what way Messi influences tickets, sponsorships, shirt sales etc but claims to have the exact income he generated.
Honestly sounds like a lot of bollocks, their study basically looked at anything that Messi could be somehow involved in it, and called it a day..
This same stuff was said about Madrid without Ronaldo, and yet their income remains unchanged.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
The fact that 8 out 10 shirts have Messi on back cant then assume that if he is not there that those folk dont buy a shirt with another name on back or still go for Messi 10 even if gone.
The headlines keep stating he makes the club hundreds of millions with no real back up to it.
No doubt he increases revenue but cant see how it is to extent as is made out.
The headlines keep stating he makes the club hundreds of millions with no real back up to it.
No doubt he increases revenue but cant see how it is to extent as is made out.
FinBarcelonafan
Well-known member
Good point.
Yannik
Senior Member
Exactly why these "shirt sale" myths make no sense.
Barca fans don't go to a store, buy a De Jong shirt and then buy an extra Messi-shirt just because Messi is there. They will either ditch the FDJ or the Messi shirt in favour for the respective other.
Of course a name like Messi will lure more people to the store than there were before, but this study has absolutely no data backing up how many those would be and chances are that they looked at ticketing and sponsorship deals the same way they counted shirt sale impact.
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raskolnikov
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Also dont underestimate the pull in tourism Barcelona has due to Messi.
Same for la liga viewers.
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