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    I'm pretty sure he'll end up in Madrid in two years.

    I doubt we'll buy another RW before we see what we have in Trincao. Veron has renewed his contract until 2024 last year and has a 60m buy out clause. With so many needs in the first team I don't think we're in situation to make that kind of a risky transfer. And tbh I'd rather stay away from signing overpriced Brazilian kids in a near future. I prefer to gamble on a few chaper ones like Emerson and Matheus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Messi983 View Post
    I'm pretty sure he'll end up in Madrid in two years.

    I doubt we'll buy another RW before we see what we have in Trincao. Veron has renewed his contract until 2024 last year and has a 60m buy out clause. With so many needs in the first team I don't think we're in situation to make that kind of a risky transfer. And tbh I'd rather stay away from signing overpriced Brazilian kids in a near future. I prefer to gamble on a few chaper ones like Emerson and Matheus.
    With Veron being right footed he can also play LW and cut in. He has played and scored many goals like that. And he is probably the best U18 brazilian player right now. He has everything to make it as one of the best forwards in world and I doubt he will go for 60m though, 30-40 seems more realistic. Not so bad for a top talent IMO. I would wait and let him develop in Brazil for a year though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vilarrubi View Post
    10 flops out of 13. Incredible.

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    Big money flop is Barca tradition, doesn't even top the garbage signed in the early 2000s

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vilarrubi View Post
    Only real flops here are Turan and the big three. Everyone else we were able to recover basically all the money back, so whatevrr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FinBarcelonafan View Post
    Only real flops here are Turan and the big three. Everyone else we were able to recover basically all the money back, so whatevrr.
    Exactly.

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    I'd say there's more to it than just if you can recover the money. If a player doesn't fit or doesn't meet expectations he's still a flop in my books, even without significant financial damage. Not only is the team worse than expected in that case but you also waste time on a player that won't stay, don't get to develop the team further etc.

    Gomes for example was definitely a flop, complete waste of money and time. Any real reinforcement during that time instead of him and Arda would've made the midfield and therefore the whole team so much better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MTL_Barca View Post
    I'd say there's more to it than just if you can recover the money. If a player doesn't fit or doesn't meet expectations he's still a flop in my books, even without significant financial damage. Not only is the team worse than expected in that case but you also waste time on a player that won't stay, don't get to develop the team further etc.

    Gomes for example was definitely a flop, complete waste of money and time. Any real reinforcement during that time instead of him and Arda would've made the midfield and therefore the whole team so much better.
    Of course but now we were looking at numbers. It hurt us a lot when both Gomes and Turan busted. We needed midfielders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FinBarcelonafan View Post
    This team might improve if we get rid of few amigos, Suarez, Busi/Raki/Vidal. Those the obvious targets. We get rid of couple or them and I think we might even see improvement in our overall play. If they stay, expect the same shit all over again.

    Do it.

    I would personally get rid of Raki and Suarez. Suarez is a must goner. We would need new striker.
    Feel free to quote me.
    Do you know what will happen when amigos leave?
    = EV-Setien effect

    From:
    1. no one can be worse than them
    2. to = wow, now we are a few levels were than before. How is that possible?

    And people will just move to new alibis and scapegoats.
    (6 Months ago, EV was guilty for everything, now scapegoats are amigos and bad transfers).

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    Quote Originally Posted by BBZ8800 View Post
    Feel free to quote me.
    Do you know what will happen when amigos leave?
    = EV-Setien effect

    From:
    1. no one can be worse than them
    2. to = wow, now we are a few levels were than before. How is that possible?

    And people will just move to new alibis and scapegoats.
    (6 Months ago, EV was guilty for everything, now scapegoats are amigos and bad transfers).
    So true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BBZ8800 View Post
    Feel free to quote me.
    Do you know what will happen when amigos leave?
    = EV-Setien effect

    From:
    1. no one can be worse than them
    2. to = wow, now we are a few levels were than before. How is that possible?

    And people will just move to new alibis and scapegoats.
    (6 Months ago, EV was guilty for everything, now scapegoats are amigos and bad transfers).
    Didn't you say that amigos were the main problem when EV was here? Did you change your opinion? Who are the real culprits, not just scapegoats? Setien? The amigos? The board?

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    Quote Originally Posted by te amo barca View Post
    Didn't you say that amigos were the main problem when EV was here? Did you change your opinion? Who are the real culprits, not just scapegoats? Setien? The amigos? The board?
    Amigos are the problem and the reason why we can't reach world class level.

    But... they are still way better than other options.
    To explain it in numbers:
    10/10 is a worlf class level
    Amigos are stuck at 8/10 level due to their age.
    So, if we want to reach level 10, we will need to get rid of amigos.

    The problem is that current players who will replace amigos are let's say 6/10 level.

    And every new transfer has like 33% chances for a success.
    So:
    1. Short term subs for amigos suck
    2. And longterm, it will take a few years until we will make a few good midfield transfers

    So, back to the original question:
    = amigos are meh.
    But othet options are way weaker.

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    Of course the veterans keep being important when every (big) transfer fails, but they still can't stay forever.

    I mean it's not like they are all 29-30 and people here just want to replace them for the sake of it, they are actually on their way to approach mid 30s now and showed time and time again how much they declined physically. Puig is the best Barca midfielder right now and Fati can start without issues as well...that's the level of the squad right now.

    They won't go all at once anyway but i seriously doubt the team would be much worse if let's say Rakitic, Suarez, Vidal leave and Busquets loses his status as undisputed starter. It would of course require some successful transfers, what already seems to be too much to ask for these days

    If the money the board mindlessly spent on Griezmann, Coutinho and Dembele was used better Barca shouldn't even be in this situation but it is what it is

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTL_Barca View Post
    Puig is the best Barca midfielder right now
    Puig played 2 matches.
    This is classical fan's daydreaming, overhyping and exaggeration.

    Not long ago:
    Dembele was more talented than Mbappe after a few good matches.
    Arthur was the 2nd best midfielder in the world.
    And Alena was surely good enough since we won against Inter.

    So, let's see how will his status look like after 10-20 matches.