Champions League

Luftstalag14 said:

Italian football these days is dull.

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serghei said:

Don't want to get into a long discussion, but Madrid lost 3-1 to fecking Spurs last year in the group stages. A year before was beaten by Dortmund. It's the CL you lose games. They probably underestimated United because they bossed Mourinho's team easily for so much in the two games. Some moments of lack of concentration and they lost a game. Not that big of a deal.

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Wolfe said:

There is no discussion to be had TBH. I agreed with you in that it's a group stage. Result doesn't matter - how the players didn't kill the game that they could have easily killed does. Unless Ronaldo changes that dynamic with some crazy display, they are doomed to repeat their usual fate in the knockouts, because they have a fundamental system flaw. I anticipate we can easily come back to this post in spring to see how it turns out. I predict they'll fail.

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serghei said:

Making CL semis and final is not failing though. There are better teams out there and nobody bar Madrid did better than them in recent years in CL.

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Wolfe said:

In their eyes it is. In everyone else's who values CL as the ultimate club trophy it is. And majority of the people do. Majority of the big club players do. They didn't buy Ronaldo to get into the semis.

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AndreC said:

Would be great if Juve qualifies in second place, but i dont think will happen.

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serghei said:

In CL you have several things that increase your chances to win it. Intensity, good tactics, ambition, luck, world class players, great fitness levels. You can have all of those but lack some luck and fail to win, or you can lack several things, but catch a good path and end up winning.

Everybody wants to win the CL, doing it is a matter of many factors. One can never be judged based on winning on not winning the CL. But you do, as a big club, need to play very well in it, to be in the conversation, and Juventus is a leading club in CL.

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Wolfe said:

Waffle. As always.

As I said, I predict they won't deliver it, will see whether I'm wrong. Writing in between the lines that "it's not their fault" is nonsense by now.

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serghei said:

You predict they won't win the CL? They are not the no1 favorite. They should make the semis, and from there it's anybody's game.

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Wolfe said:

I assume you can read. Yes. I predict they won't win the CL. Don't give a slightest toss who the other favourites are according to polls, odds, rankings, whatever you put forward.

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serghei said:

Going by your prediction that Lopetegui won't be sacked that soon I suppose I should be putting money on Juve to win the CL as fast as I can.

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serghei said:

I think it's looking good for them. On course to have 4/4 teams in the knockout stages. 3 will probably go through for sure.

Inter are beating the EPL counterpart in Spurs. Napoli beat Liverpool and dominated PSG overall. Juve is going to win the group, and Roma will go through easily. Many italian teams play really good football.

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1. Spain - 9.571pts
2. Germany - 8.642pts
3. Italy - 7.642pts
4. England - 7.500pts
5. Serbia - 6.000pts
6. Scotland - 6000pts
7. Portugal - 5.500pts
8. Russia - 5.416pts
9. France - 5.250pts
10. Belgium - 5.200pts
    

Yannik said:

Coefficient pts 2018/2019

1. Spain - 9.571pts
2. Germany - 8.642pts
3. Italy - 7.642pts
4. England - 7.500pts
5. Serbia - 6.000pts
6. Scotland - 6000pts
7. Portugal - 5.500pts
8. Russia - 5.416pts
9. France - 5.250pts
10. Belgium - 5.200pts
    

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