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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruyff-Total Football View Post
    He does. I'll search for his shot conversation rate in the CL last 5 years. You too, and if you find bring it. We can compare it with Messi.
    I watched more or less every CL game of Madrid in the advanced phases. And some group games. The difference is huge. In these tough games vs the big boys, Ronaldo is frustratingly clinical with his chances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by serghei View Post
    I watched more or less every CL game of Madrid in the advanced phases. And some group games. The difference is huge. In these tough games vs the big boys, Ronaldo is frustratingly clinical with his chances.
    Not so clinical as Messi when provided with clear cut chances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruyff-Total Football View Post
    Not so clinical as Messi when provided with clear cut chances.
    I don't know where is Messi more clinical with his chances in top CL games if he hasn't scored in the QF in 5 years. Plus, if you score 1 goal out of 1 big chance, this is not better than 5 goals out of 7 chances, even though the first is 100% conversion and the 2nd is only 57%. In the end it's still 1 goal vs 5 goals. Big part of playing as a striker is movement up front, you have to get in those chances and you have to know how to play inside the 16m box.

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    Since we are throwing stats let's throw one more. Why don’t you also take this into consideration?

    MINUTES PLAYED THIS SEASON:

    Messi 3.785
    Ronaldo 3.057

    728 minutes more! Thats over 8 games! Of course Ronaldo looks fitter than Messi in this part of the season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by serghei View Post
    I don't know where is Messi more clinical with his chances in top CL games if he hasn't scored in the QF in 5 years. Plus, if you score 1 goal out of 1 big chance, this is not better than 5 goals out of 7 chances, even though the first is 100% conversion and the 2nd is only 57%. In the end it's still 1 goal vs 5 goals. Big part of playing as a striker is movement up front, you have to get in those chances and you have to know how to play inside the 16m box.
    Talking about Movements?

    When was the last time, Messi and Suarez were standing in the penalty box forever only marked by 2 CBs only for Alba to dribble and provide with a cross 3 yards away from front of goal for Suarez to deceive the 2CBs?

    When was the last time a Barca player dribbled two defenders while Messi was standing ball watching in front of the Goalkeeper only for him to cut it to Messi 2 yards in front of goal like Marcelo against Bayern?

    Completely different circumstances. Most of the time I see Messi, he's trying to shoot from outside the penalty box only to be blocked perfectly by a block of 3 defenders in front of him.

    Messi has the most goals from outside the box in the last 5 years. But Ronaldo is more clinical?

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    Messi didnt score in QF 5 years... wow



    Edit: messi doesnt move enough on the pitch, so its easier to mark him then ronaldo who is constantly on the move , we can read how messi is "saving" himself so that is the reason he walks sometimes, i think that is not the case, he just dont like running so much
    Last edited by vlad; 5th April 2018 at 07:52 PM.

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    Okay... Let's settle this once and forever. Since, I don't know about editing, can anyone post all the goals of Ronaldo in the last 5 year CL knock outs and the same for Messi?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vlad View Post
    Messi didnt score in QF 5 years... wow



    Edit: messi doesnt move enough on the pitch, so its easier to mark him then ronaldo who is constantly on the move , we can read how messi is "saving" himself so that is the reason he walks sometimes, i think that is not the case, he just dont like running so much
    Please read my last post about movements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Flaco View Post


    Wait... I'll upload all the 'assists' of Ronaldo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raketa10 View Post
    Since we are throwing stats let's throw one more. Why don’t you also take this into consideration?

    MINUTES PLAYED THIS SEASON:

    Messi 3.785
    Ronaldo 3.057

    728 minutes more! Thats over 8 games! Of course Ronaldo looks fitter than Messi in this part of the season.
    I guess many of them are due to Ronaldo's suspension in the beginning of the season.

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    Lock this thread for good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruyff-Total Football View Post
    Messi has the most goals from outside the box in the last 5 years. But Ronaldo is more clinical?
    Ronaldo is more clinical, he scores more in the CL. But it's easier to score a tap-in than from outside the box.

    Don't know how it would look if we tried to set up Messi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Flaco View Post


    Watch this and comeback with the discussion of his all time assists.

    https://youtu.be/fgCC9bfyhAs

    This video not only shows how ridiculous it's to compare with stats but also how good Ronaldo's teammates are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joan Laporta View Post
    Ronaldo is more clinical, he scores more in the CL. But it's easier to score a tap-in than from outside the box.

    Don't know how it would look if we tried to set up Messi.
    Last time a team was focused on setting up Messi, he scored 91 goals and the very next year was scoring in a better rate to beat the record only for injuries to change all the tactical plans.