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    A short video of his appearance for Arsenal vs Bate Borisov.

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    Quote Originally Posted by messi1995 View Post
    There is a difference between signing someone for the first team and the B team.
    What's the difference? In both cases you want the best you can get.
    We have talents for DM now like Oriol busi, Jandro Orellana and Alex Rico. The reason why I respect the signing of Jorge Cuenca is because we don't have many special CB's in la masia + he has the DNA. Why I don't respect this signing or many other signings like that villareal winger is because Sergio Gomez won't play that much.
    How do you know this guy doesn't have the DNA? He's a highly rated defensive midfielder who's hailed for his versatility. Wenger said: "McGuane is a defensive midfielder, he can play wing-back or even centre-back. In training sometimes he plays with us at centre-back." I do understand your point about that Villareal winger, but as you said, the team needs experienced players and if a coach (whoever that is) doesn't trust his options, then go for it.
    Sergio Gomez won't play at all. He turned down club's offer and decided to leave. I am sorry for that, but there's no need to cry for the one who disrespected the club.

    And why didn't we let Carlez Perez play in many games? Because this board like banf average farmers instead of him. Not gonna say he will be a first team material, but he deserved to play and he has proven that.
    I like Carles Perez very much, don't know will he ever be 1st team material, he even might, but that doesn't matter.
    What matters is that he got a chance and took it. Played 180 minutes in a row, let's see how that develops.
    You can't say that masia players are not given chances, maybe the timing is not right, or the impression is false - but they are playing a lot.
    I'll come up with the stats later, before the weekend.
    That said, Neither do I like Gerard's term, but not trusting youth is not one of his flaws.
    When we have a very talentet player in la masia in the same postion which is good enough to play, the there is no point in signing randon farmers. We don't have any special CB's and thats why I respect and like the signing of Jorge Cuenca. Also he is a very good ball playinf CB, only 18 and I like him. Good signing.
    Cuenca was a great signing, huge victory. A very promising youngster who will hopefully enter the first team. Agree on that end.
    But don't understand why are you discarding this transfer? Have you watched him play? He's also 18. Not some random "farmer".
    You seem to be an expert on the B team, but let's change the focus for a second. In the first team, Busquets and Rakitić are playing as double pivots, there's no one who can rest them. If these guys perform, there'll be plenty of opportunities.
    Also, want to ask you a question: few years ago, when then bright Deulofeu, Traore and Tello played in the B team, would you sign some Asensio? Very interested in your explanation.

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    I mean just because we signed these said players doesn't mean Gerard will drop the likes of Alena etc. I don't rate Gerard very high but I seriously doubt he would tell the likes of Alena,Cucu,Miranda or the rest of the La Masia players in the B team that "Well since I signed all these players you guys are no longer needed".

    We don't know what kind of role Marcus McGuane,Tabla etc will have in the team right now. There's nothing wrong with adding players like them as they were cheap and the club is willing to take a gamble on if they are good enough for the future to go along with the likes of Alena etc.

    Young players who are brought in from the outside deserve as much as chance as the La Masia players do to impress the coach. That's the problem with with La Masia journalists, they hold Kids who came through the system so highly and yet won't give much leeway to outsiders who are around the same age who could possibly be good players as well.

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    Agreed.

    I don't understand why people keep complaining when we bring players from the outside to compete with our players. If La Masia talents are really as good as fans of those kids think they should have no problems getting enough playing time. If they can't beat those "farmers" for minutes then tell me how will they do in the first team where their competition will be even tougher?

    In worst case scenario (for them) players like McGuane and Tabla won't be good enough and we'll eventually sell them (and most likely still make a profit on them since they were both brought for cheap) and play La Masia kids instead. In a better scenario they will be good enough to help Barça B (and possibly even get some first team opportunities) and maybe at the same time their presence will also help other players to develop better. And in best case scenario (for those players and the club) we'll find a hidden gem that will be able to play in the first team, at least as a useful squad player if not a starter.

    Another thing: players like Puyol, Busquets and Pedro all came to La Masia when they were around 17. It's true they were from smaller clubs but nowadays people would likely still complain why we brought them instead of giving a chance to kids that are already here since they were 10 or 12 and/or before kids that are more hyped and "flashy". Instead, club gave them a chance to compete against those kids even though they were not the most talented players of their generation. But they had qualities like leadership and commitment (Puyol), work rate (Pedro) and intelligence (Busi) among others that helped push them ahead of kids who were maybe more gifted technically.

    I think nowadays people are too focused on just technical abilities of young players and when they see someone can dribble or pass they start to call them wonderkids and compare those kids to football legends like Messi, Xavi, Iniesta,... which in itself is wrong because it puts additional unneeded pressure on youngsters. Clearly tehnical abilities are very important for our playing style but if a player lacks a lot in attributes mentioned above (and many more) then it's very likely he won't make it here even if he's above average technically.

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    I hope he plays the next game, I wanna see what he’s got.

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    Out of all the B signings we made this window he's the one I'm the most interested in and how he does.

    This dilemma was of course one part of McGuane’s decision, but not the only thing weighing on his mind. There was also the fact that, with just six months left on his contract, he had as many as 30 clubs interested in him - including Juventus and Manchester United.
    This is from the above article. Like I said I'm not sure how well he will do here but it seems like he was rated pretty highly by a lot of clubs by the looks of it.

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    From what have heard he was not all the highly rated by Arsenal or had any of those big clubs in for him by time left.

    Fucking Rangers seemed to be one of the closest to getting him.

    This is not some reverse Fabregas where Barca have signed a hugely rated youngster but seems more like Barca taking a punt on a young player who may develop.