21 - Frenkie de Jong

booge

New member
With the right manager and 10 new players.
I don't see how any manager will turn this bunch of players into a team who will play both: beautiful and successful football ever again.

Unless, again, if we can somehow hire this guy who will make our players younger, faster and motivated:
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** A simple test: from now on, you guys should estimate our: play in terms of being eye pleasing and results, each new Month.
On larger samples, we will play uglier and uglier and have weaker results and sink even deeper each new Month.

good to see someone talking sense. there is a lot of shit in this team right now.
sergi roberto is so bad it's untrue. it's him who unsettles the defence and is a complete waste of time offensivley.
suarez as good as finisher he is, it's like playing the ten men (i beleive this is where the biggest problem lies) if you can remember the team did incredibly well without him begining of last season but all of the sudden he was back in the team)
greizman is the guardiola type of player. i can instantly see his tracking back and pressuring,
vidal as lovely as a bloke he is, is actually a b-rate player who is limited in his skill level
your basically left with no midfield, your left with a wasted striker position and the most shitty right back
theres a f****** hole in the midfield. no wonder busquets looks like scared to death, have you seen his face, boys been frightended.



we are playing BENCH WARMERS as first team players.

i just hope when arthur comes back it makes a difference. i doubt it though. suarez, sergi roberto & and the manager are the killers of this club.
 

BBZ8800

Senior Member
Rosell is the worst president of the club.

As bad as Barto and Rosell are, there are nowhere near the worst presidents of our club.
We won 4 CLs and 10 La Ligas since 2005'.
Or 3 Cls and 8 La Ligas since 2008'.

We had Messi and we could have achieved way more, true.
But in 20 years, we will look at this era with tears.
Since after Messi, we will probably win 3 La Ligas in 10 years (with Real and Atletico winning in other seasons).
And in a CL, we will be just one out of 8-10 equal teams with equal chances to win a title.

From 2022-2032, we will have 2-3 La Ligas and 0-1 CLs.
If Barto/Rosell were bad, imagine what a forum will write about presidents in the future.

Fans are spoiled by a recent era.
This was the most successful era and it will never repeat again.

Maybe we should lower our expectations and stop losing nerves.
Ok, we should always aim to get better players and better coaches.
But NEVER AGAIN we should compare our results, beautiful play and players to Messi-Xavi-Iniesta era.

We are a team of mortals today.
And we should compare our players to other mortals, like with teams from 80s, 90s or 00s.
NO ONE should be compared to Xavi-Iniesta-Messi.
It will only leads to frustrations and being disappointed all the time.

It will take a few years to change a mindset of Barca's fans.
We are not the best in the world anymore.
We will never again have Messi.
Or Xavi-Iniesta.

When we will start to accept the idea that we are 1 out of 2-3 best clubs in Spain or just one out of 10 European giants, watching football and results will be way easier.
Our attitude is still on a "high horse".

For younger fans, our last Months or 2-3 years may seem like the worst football ever.
For me, every match today is more or less the same old Barca like in 90s or early 00s.
Some good things, some bad things.
The only difference is that we never had such an old and slow team in a history.
And of course that these guys (with or without EV) run and move less than ever...
 
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FC433

New member
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Back in training mode! &#55357;&#56613; <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/fj21?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#fj21</a> <a href="https://t.co/n4x4ta97FS">pic.twitter.com/n4x4ta97FS</a></p>— Frenkie de Jong (@DeJongFrenkie21) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeJongFrenkie21/status/1216847954990059520?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 13, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The timing :D
 

messi2140

6racies Xavi
Its not only him other players are liking instagram posts of Valverde getting fired/Setien getting appointed. Puig being one of them.
 

kollegah

Senior Member
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Back in training mode! �� <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/fj21?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#fj21</a> <a href="https://t.co/n4x4ta97FS">pic.twitter.com/n4x4ta97FS</a></p>— Frenkie de Jong (@DeJongFrenkie21) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeJongFrenkie21/status/1216847954990059520?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 13, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The timing :D

spoiled brat....players with class like iniesta, xavi, lahm, alonso would not do this and just look to improve their game, so should FDJ, looks like a 30mio player until now
 

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