Arthur
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Luftstalag14
Culé de Celestial Empire
I feel bad for Mina if he has to leave on loan to make room for Arthur. I hope he will not end up like Marlon.
BarcaMessi
Banned
Going on loan can't be worse than not being in the squad for 10 games at a time.
Trafalgar
Senior Member
DonAndres
Wild Man of Borneo
Idk why so many people here are sure he's gonna be a flop.
I could ask no more from him in terms of style and performance in his circumstances. He's done it at the highest level in Brazil and succeeded, and he shows really good qualities. He has passing range, no fear at breaking the lines unlike Rakitic, and really good ball retention with his dribbling ability so he's able to play through pressure. His defensive tenacity is supposed to be one of his better qualities and from what I've seen he reminds me of Verratti in that regard, but he's bigger and looks built/hard to push off the ball. Exactly what we need for that RCM role.
It's possible this doesn't translate to European football but how can you be sure of that from what we've seen so far? I see nothing but a very good prospect that could be key for us if he works out, and I hope he comes in the summer so that he can start acclimating and fighting for his spot.
I could ask no more from him in terms of style and performance in his circumstances. He's done it at the highest level in Brazil and succeeded, and he shows really good qualities. He has passing range, no fear at breaking the lines unlike Rakitic, and really good ball retention with his dribbling ability so he's able to play through pressure. His defensive tenacity is supposed to be one of his better qualities and from what I've seen he reminds me of Verratti in that regard, but he's bigger and looks built/hard to push off the ball. Exactly what we need for that RCM role.
It's possible this doesn't translate to European football but how can you be sure of that from what we've seen so far? I see nothing but a very good prospect that could be key for us if he works out, and I hope he comes in the summer so that he can start acclimating and fighting for his spot.
Raketa10
Senior Member
Because some people here understand football much better than Pep Guardiola and some of them can even read the future from a crystal ball!
We really need this guy to be a real deal since there isn't any other controlling midfielder on the market right now so I really hope he succeeds here!!
BarçaBarça
New member
Because some people here understand football much better than Pep Guardiola and some of them can even read the future from a crystal ball!
We really need this guy to be a real deal since there isn't any other controlling midfielder on the market right now so I really hope he succeeds here!!
You are right - maybe Pep needed to be interested before anyone could see that he has a fine profile for Barca
Raketa10
Senior Member
You are right - maybe Pep needed to be interested before anyone could see that he has a fine profile for Barca
It wouldn't change anything, people also doubted Umtiti so he simply needs to prove himself here. The theory that he is from Brasil so he'll flop here is wrong. Luka Modric played at his age for Dinamo Zagreb and no one can seriously claim that Croatian league is better than Brazilian. The fact that he plays in Brazil is totally irrelevant. Only important thing is whether this kid is talented enough to succeed here or not. If he is than it's on us to develop him, he will for sure need time to adapt so we'll need to be patient before we make a judgement on him.
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God Serena
New member
Modric didn't go straight from Dinamo Zagreb to Real Madrid, though. He had spells on loan and then played for a lower tier team (At the time) In Tottenham for years before going to Madrid. Unless our plan with Arthur is to do the same, that's a nonsense comparison.
Any accomplishment he has in Brazil amounts to beating children. He's obviously wanted for his play style but he has no achievements to prove his quality, no European experience to indicate he'll be able to make the jump, and no NT experience to suggest he can gel with world class teammates in a pressure environment.
I'm not predicting he'll flop or saying I don't expect him to do well, but as far as I'm concerned he's as likely to succeed here as the average Barca B player, and we all know how likely that is.
FCBfan22
Senior Member
Bring him here in the summer and play him at Barca B (if we aren't relegated) until January. It's a win-win for everybody. He'll get integrated to Euro football and Barca B will be better because of him.
The only problem is: Is he ready to play for Barca B for 5 months.
The only problem is: Is he ready to play for Barca B for 5 months.
CatalinR10
Senior Member
Are you asking if a 40 mil signing and maybe the most promising player out of Brazil is ready to play at Barca B ?
FCBfan22
Senior Member
Well, if he is ready to do that, we can promote him to the first team as soon as Cou gets that passport. I know it's utopic, but that would be the best scenario.
George_Costanza
Active member
Gabriel Jesus is doing well at City. Didn't need to go to lower Europen club to prove himself. I can think of Masch moving from Corinthians to Liverpool (He only played 5 matches in W.Ham before making a move).
Pepe Silvia
Active member
Kid looks the real deal in mid.
khaled_a_d
Senior Member
People hasn't watched him, which make defending or criticizing the signing so much is as absurd as it goes. It is understandable too that some will be optimistic about his skillset and others will be skeptical about him showing it only in weaker league.
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