AjaxAmsterdam
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This is mostly true but why are you so invested in this? Why would an Ajax fan care how ungrateful and bitter Barcelona fans are towards their players? And by extension, as a De Ligt fan, it seems that it's best that he chose Juve over Barca since our fans are overly entitled and wouldn't appreciate him. So what't really the problem?
Did you think that when you watched 15 yo De Jong that he'll become one of the best CM in the world and one of the standouts of a CL semi finalist as soon as 21yo? Or that he'll be one of Barca's record signings at merely 22 years of age? Don't lie.
First of all, they play different positions on the field and comparing talents this way is faulty at best. For us, De Jong was a much more needed addition than De Ligt and therefore the much bigger prospect. Secondly, a DM/CM is more important than a defender. This has always been the case and will forever be. Why do you think the goats of this sport are all forwards or attacking midfielders? As you advance along the pitch, the position becomes more and more important to a team. Even an outlier like Beckenbauer is barely mentioned as top 10 player of all time. De Ligt could become as good as Baresi for all I care, I would always choose a Modric or Schweinsteiger over him 10 time out of 10, even if in terms of all time status for their respective positions, Baresi is among the greatest while Modric/Schweini are in the second or third tier of CMs. Not even mentioning goat midfielders like Xavi, Rijkard, Iniesta or Matthaus. Of course, this is all assuming that they all stay with us for the same period of time.
I would also like to mention that Xavi at the age of De Jong was good but was never destined to become one of the greatest so how they look at this age has little relevance for how they'll be at 25 or 30. Not saying De Jong will be as good as Xavi, or hell he might not even become as good as Busquets(imo he'll surpass him for sure), but even 70% of Xavi is still better than most of the defenders today and probably even more important to a team than peak De Ligt.
Reason im invested in this is de Jong is my favorite player, and I project as soon as he plays 1 bad game or makes 1 mistake (which he is prone to do since he plays with a lot of risk) all this positive de Jong energy will turn negative.
I agree though different players follow different projections, disagree on the CM/DM part, there was a reason a crappy liverpool defense who was leaking goals turned into a fort( and this happened before allison joined), a leader in the back is worth its weight in gold, although with Barca's needs you probably have that already covered in Pique which is the exact reason why de Jong is more important for the Dutch NT.
My point of who was the bigger talent, was just made to illustrate hoping that de ligt fails probably will be futile.
Ow and about de Jong at young age , he was really good sligtly behind Nouri in what everyone expected to be 2 great CAMs , however de Jong started gaining on him in potential cus he went through a physical transformation (he used to be very sleight and not that quick now hes suprisingly quick).
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