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    Quote Originally Posted by Luftstalag14 View Post
    Sure, but everything has indicated that we will not up our offer so he is as good as gone, unless the likes of Juventus and City won't match ManU's offer either.

    Like I said yesterday, I am more and more leaning towards not signing him because he clearly doesn't have a preference favoring us other clubs. We are just one of the suitors and money and playing time (where we lag behind our competitors) will decide everything. I might sound obnoxiously entitled and out-of-touch but I want us to sign a player who wants to join us because of our appeal, not someone who joins us because we offered the most money.
    thats if the United offer is real in the first place or Raiola is manipulating the numbers. its a win-win situation for him either way

    I feel the same btw and part of my excitement for him joining here was the idea he will be here the next decade but theres no chance of that happening. Frenkie is a different case. we could develop De Ligt for the next 2-3years only for Raiola to decide he needs another agents cut and it will be Neymar all over again

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    City are more likely to buy Maguire than de Ligt. Juve haven't been in the news at all in concerns to de Ligt, lately.

    I still think this is all a ploy by Raiola to up the wages and money, and by Bartomeu to make it seem like he's the hero in all of this when the deal is officially done. Remember, Lorente is MD reporter, the board's mouthpiece. No other club has shown serious interest in de Ligt except us and United. And lets be real, does he really want to go from a UCL team to a Europa League team?

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    Plus I feel like him and his fat agent already made the relationship between him and Barça uneasy. Even if we signed him wtf is he gonna say? "Ive always wanted to play for Barça" when it is obvious that he moves where the money js

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    Quote Originally Posted by Givenchy View Post
    thats if the United offer is real in the first place or Raiola is manipulating the numbers. its a win-win situation for him either way

    I feel the same btw and part of my excitement for him joining here was the idea he will be here the next decade but theres no chance of that happening. Frenkie is a different case. we could develop De Ligt for the next 2-3years only for Raiola to decide he needs another agents cut and it will be Neymar all over again
    Even if Manchester United never offered the kind of crazy money that surfaced a couple of days ago, the likes of City and Juventus are well capable of offering more money than what we offered him and beat us to it. They just have to offer him more than what we did, I can totally see City doing that, plus promising playing time.

    I have been on his hype train for a long time and I am one of his most ardent fans and advocates, wanting him to join us, I understand how important he could be for us in the next decade. But nobody is bigger than the club and we have to have principles in place so I am willing to part ways with him if he goes down that road.
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    Quote Originally Posted by abbbs97 View Post
    City are more likely to buy Maguire than de Ligt. Juve haven't been in the news at all in concerns to de Ligt, lately.

    I still think this is all a ploy by Raiola to up the wages and money, and by Bartomeu to make it seem like he's the hero in all of this when the deal is officially done. Remember, Lorente is MD reporter, the board's mouthpiece. No other club has shown serious interest in de Ligt except us and United. And lets be real, does he really want to go from a UCL team to a Europa League team?
    Unless they totally made it up both MD and Sport have long reportedly that Juventus and Bayern and possibly PSG were in the race getting him. Juventus for sure, they met with Ajax twice already trying to secure De Ligt. They might or might not have pulled out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by abbbs97 View Post
    City are more likely to buy Maguire than de Ligt. Juve haven't been in the news at all in concerns to de Ligt, lately.

    I still think this is all a ploy by Raiola to up the wages and money, and by Bartomeu to make it seem like he's the hero in all of this when the deal is officially done. Remember, Lorente is MD reporter, the board's mouthpiece. No other club has shown serious interest in de Ligt except us and United. And lets be real, does he really want to go from a UCL team to a Europa League team?
    Ballague said Juve and Bayern were the other 2 teams interested a few days ago. Bayern a solid 3rd but Juve pretty close so who knows at this stage

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luftstalag14 View Post
    Unless they totally made it up both MD and Sport have long reportedly that Juventus and Bayern and possibly PSG were in the race getting him. Juventus for sure, they met with Ajax twice already trying to secure De Ligt. They might or might not have pulled out.
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    Ballague said Juve and Bayern were the other 2 teams interested a few days ago. Bayern a solid 3rd but Juve pretty close so who knows at this stage
    Juve met with Ajax way before us and they didnt come with an agreement. We met with Ajax in April and the deal was almost signed, as in the transfer fee was agreed upon, but then de Ligt's price rose after his performance vs Juve in the UCL so Raiola asked for more money so we delayed the deal until the end of the season for both teams. Now, more complications because Raiola wants more money.

    I dont see Bayern paying 80m+ on a defender, when they already bought Lucas. I also dont see Juve affording his high wages.

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    Why would he even want to join this shitshow of a team. Most of our players are living in the past glory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devils View Post

    BLA BLA BLA...he will be signed!

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    United offering 14m/y apparently
    Can't blame him, and can't blame barca for not offering bankrupcy money, he would be earning more than Pique at 19
    Money won I guess.

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    Playing with Messi and Frenkie in the CL for 8 mil a year.

    or

    Playing EL in a shitty team, with a shitty coach (even shittyer than Valverde) for 14 mil a year.

    hmmm

    He's 19.... he has a whole career ahead of him. He will make more than enough money.
    If money is his first priority (which i don't think, he seems like a humble normal dude to me), than Barca obviously isn't the best option.

    If he want to win trophies. Well, what is he waiting for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Campos View Post
    Playing with Messi and Frenkie in the CL for 8 mil a year.

    or

    Playing EL in a shitty team, with a shitty coach (even shittyer than Valverde) for 14 mil a year.

    hmmm

    He's 19.... he has a whole career ahead of him. He will make more than enough money.
    If money is his first priority (which i don't think, he seems like a humble normal dude to me), than Barca obviously isn't the best option.

    If he want to win trophies. Well, what is he waiting for.
    on the flip side, hes only 19 and will be earning ridiculous wages. he may not win a league or CL but lets say the situation at United doesnt improve in 2-3 years, he'll be a 22 year old made man with all the clubs in Europe still chasing him similair to Mbappe, its not a bad deal for De Ligt

    I personally wouldn't be happy paying a 19 y.o 14mil per year knowing the only reason he joined is for the $$$ but as Valverde would say "it is what it is"

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    So with bonuses he could earn as much as pique at United.

    United are fecking stupid giving a 19 years that amount of money.

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    edit: removed as it seems to fuck the page up on the forum

    interesting.. Bayern being mentioned
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    Quote Originally Posted by Givenchy View Post


    interesting.. Bayern being mentioned
    Bayern is pure name dropping . Hernandez pavard sule Hummels and Boateng

    And Bayern have a strict wage structure. No way they will make de ligt top earner
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