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    Would you be willing to part with one of MSN in order to tune the squad ?

    As we might need a big overhaul of the squad, for which we probably do not have sufficient money, would you be willing to sell one of MSN to free up financial resources ?

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    Was thinking about it yesterday actually, but not due to financial resources.

    My thinking was trading Neymar for Verratti and getting Hazard even though I'm not the biggest fan of the guy, but that would still end up costing us 90m.

    Would not sell one of MSN now because even if we get 150m for one, guys like Verratti are not available. What are we going to use the money on? Signing more duds?

    Get rid of all the deadweight first and free up space and money.

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    Only if we can get good players, i don't mind selling one of Neymar and Suarez.

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    If the pathetic board of ours didnt spend money on the likes Vermaelen, Gomes and Arda, and actually tried to sell off our scrubs instead of loaning them until their contracts run out or sell them for a small fee - then MSN would not be a problem at all. Real sold freakin Jese for 30m and we cant even get a bag of sh!t for our players.
    If Gomes and Arda are sold you have the money for one midfielder. The other midfielder and the RB are to be bought from the summer transfer budget + there are some money to be made on other players like Tello, Vermaelen, Mathieu etc.

    It would be stupid to split the MSN trio. All they need is a midfield that can support and create for them. During the treble season we had both Neymar and Suarez making runs and even Messi sometimes. Look at the huge difference now. Instead of making runs, we have Neymar collecting the ball in midfield instead which makes him less of a threat. Same goes for Messi. Instead of mainly being near the opponents box he must drop down to midfield and create something himself. Suarez gets no service at all = wasting one of the best strikers in the world. If we 1 or 2 amazing passers to help Messi (like Özil for example) we'd have the trio to concentrate more on scoring goals and being in good positions to begin with instead of both creating and scoring all by themselves.

    So no, i would not be willing to part with anyone of the MSN trio. Sell the players that bring nothing to the team at all. But if i had to pick one it would be Suarez simply because Messi is Messi and Neymar is like 5-6 years younger.

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    Messi - No chance.

    Neymar and Suarez I would be more open to. Assuming that we get world class reinforcements in the areas that we need.
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    i would be willing to part with suarez if we are able to get a striker in the mold of villa. suarez is undoubtedly a great striker, but in tight areas, his hold up play and passing break down so many of our attacks.

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    Suarez yes! But only for a player with the likes of Verratti.

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    for a world class winger and midfielder Suarez.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardy View Post
    for a world class winger and midfielder Suarez.
    ? Who would be striker then ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaPulga View Post
    ? Who would be striker then ?
    Lord Paco

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    This will happen in a summer of 2018.
    Ney or Suarez, or both will be gone, after another poor season.

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    If we were supposed to destroy MSN

    I would keep Messi
    Sell Suarez, sign Mbappe
    Sell Neymar, sign Dybala

    Team would look like

    ...,.............Busi.....
    .....Veratti............Roberto
    ................Messi
    .......Dybala.........Mbappe




    BUT we are keeping MSN
    So all this is irrelevant

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Guaje View Post
    If the pathetic board of ours didnt spend money on the likes Vermaelen, Gomes and Arda, and actually tried to sell off our scrubs instead of loaning them until their contracts run out or sell them for a small fee - then MSN would not be a problem at all. Real sold freakin Jese for 30m and we cant even get a bag of sh!t for our players.
    If Gomes and Arda are sold you have the money for one midfielder. The other midfielder and the RB are to be bought from the summer transfer budget + there are some money to be made on other players like Tello, Vermaelen, Mathieu etc.

    It would be stupid to split the MSN trio. All they need is a midfield that can support and create for them. During the treble season we had both Neymar and Suarez making runs and even Messi sometimes. Look at the huge difference now. Instead of making runs, we have Neymar collecting the ball in midfield instead which makes him less of a threat. Same goes for Messi. Instead of mainly being near the opponents box he must drop down to midfield and create something himself. Suarez gets no service at all = wasting one of the best strikers in the world. If we 1 or 2 amazing passers to help Messi (like Özil for example) we'd have the trio to concentrate more on scoring goals and being in good positions to begin with instead of both creating and scoring all by themselves.

    So no, i would not be willing to part with anyone of the MSN trio. Sell the players that bring nothing to the team at all. But if i had to pick one it would be Suarez simply because Messi is Messi and Neymar is like 5-6 years younger.
    There are 2 options:
    1. MSN from 2014/15 is a true level of MSN and they are just underperforming now due to Lucho, motivation, age etc
    2. A current level of MSN from the last two seasons is a true level of MSN, and 2014/15 was just one crazy season where they played at 120% of their abilities (like Leicester or Atletico in their golden seasons) and 2014/15 will never repeat again. Especially if you add age and even less motivation in each new season.

    We too often look at one short period of time and think about that period as "a true level" of Msn or Neymar.
    If we look at larger samples, both at good and bad periods, plus if we try to make some "average form" over 3-4 years, imo, those estimations will be way closer to a real value than looking only at player's prime 6 or 12 Months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BBZ8800 View Post
    There are 2 options:
    1. MSN from 2014/15 is a true level of MSN and they are just underperforming now due to Lucho, motivation, age etc
    2. A current level of MSN from the last two seasons is a true level of MSN, and 2014/15 was just one crazy season where they played at 120% of their abilities (like Leicester or Atletico in their golden seasons) and 2014/15 will never repeat again. Especially if you add age and even less motivation in each new season.

    We too often look at one short period of time and think about that period as "a true level" of Msn or Neymar.
    If we look at larger samples, both at good and bad periods, plus if we try to make some "average form" over 3-4 years, imo, those estimations will be way closer to a real value than looking only at player's prime 6 or 12 Months.
    i see your point about waiting to see how MSN perform post lucho but i think lucho or not, the 14-15 version of MSN was skewed as messi put together probably the best season of his club career (~60 goals, ~ 30 assists). i don't see messi performing at that level over another season again, and suarez seems to have declined a little as he is already ~30. so yes, the 14-15 MSN was a one off, and we should be thankful they willed a treble just on sheer attacking force. we shouldn't look towards them to carry the same burden in future seasons and instead return to a more traditional model of midfield + full back dominance.

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    The point is there is no one good enough to join us if we sell one of them to replace him. We could sell neymar or suarez for a huge amount but there is no guarantee that the replacements will outdo neymar or suarez.

    But yeah our wage bill is too high to operate currently.