Nelson Semedo

JamDav1982 · Feb 22, 2018

5ergio_Busquets said:
Semedo can offer more than Roberto going forward he just needs to improve the link-up with the other players and this can only happen with more playing time.
Valverde is just ultra conservative and is afraid to try anything new, you can see that with the way he is treating Coutinho and Dembele.

He hasnt shown more so far and it is not all down to playing time which he has had plenty of already.

Played 25 times and almost 20 starts by February.

If it is all down to playing time then why did he start well? It is not about that and he has had enough time to show more.

LeeRomeno · Feb 22, 2018

George_Costanza said:
Nonsense...How do you know he doesn't fit the coach masterplan if he was rarely used? A coach who is known by now for being ultra-conservative and playing it safe, not taking any risks will never know how to explore new potentials like Semedo and Demeble. He still rely on the old guards and even worse than Lucho for not using yougsters either new siginings or Barca B players. I want him gone after this season just for this.

Would make sense if he actually was rarely used, but he is not. He has had plenty of opportunities.
Any sensible coach would also use old guards as he was obviously hired to take maximum from our golden generations last couple of seasons and this is completely wrong time to start randomly using some barca b or unproven players.
Win as much as we can with Messi and then complete rehaul of system is needed anyways.

5ergio_Busquets · Feb 22, 2018

JamDav1982 said:
He hasnt shown more so far and it is not all down to playing time which he has had plenty of already.

Played 25 times and almost 20 starts by February.

If it is all down to playing time then why did he start well? It is not about that and he has had enough time to show more.

How many games did Roberto play at RB? He has been playing at RB since 2016 and he is still not good enough, he is better in attack at the moment but still lacks the basics in defending so in general he isn't the better RB.

JamDav1982 · Feb 22, 2018

5ergio_Busquets said:
How many games did Roberto play at RB? He has been playing at RB since 2016 and he is still not good enough, he is better in attack at the moment but still lacks the basics in defending so in general he isn't the better RB.

He has been the better RB this season and fairly easily the better of the two.

Attacking wise has been streets ahead and even defending barely anything in it other than Semedo has more pace in a foot race.

At Barca going forward is more important than defending for a full back anyway.

5ergio_Busquets · Feb 22, 2018

JamDav1982 said:
He has been the better RB this season and fairly easily the better of the two.

Attacking wise has been streets ahead and even defending barely anything in it other than Semedo has more pace in a foot race.

At Barca going forward is more important than defending for a full back anyway.

Semedo is a much better defender than Roberto and that's not just because of his speed.
Also what did Roberto "offer going forward" against Chelsea's bus?

JamDav1982 · Feb 22, 2018

5ergio_Busquets said:
Semedo is a much better defender than Roberto and that's not just because of his speed.
Also what did Roberto "offer going forward" against Chelsea's bus?

Semedo isnt 'much better defensively' there has not been much in it in fact if look at stats looks like Roberto is the better of two at number of things.

Quite a fee times Semedo has had to use his pace has been to rectify his own fuck ups anyway.

Joan · Feb 22, 2018

Roberto has been better of the two. But I think he doesn't offer (as a Rb) anything he wouldn't be capable of if used as a RM.

With Semedo, I don't feel it's about playing time. He's had a lot of it, but never a string of games despite not commiting any serious mistake.
Not even in the beginning of the season when he played well.
So I don't take the argument 'if we played him, we'd lose points'.

There are not many clubs which are harder to fit in than Barca.

All of this, together with the fact that we do not have an established RM, doesn't convince that 'the coach is always right'. I trust Valverde but think this is not the right way.

5ergio_Busquets · Feb 22, 2018

JamDav1982 said:
Semedo isnt 'much better defensively' there has not been much in it in fact if look at stats looks like Roberto is the better of two at number of things.

Quite a fee times Semedo has had to use his pace has been to rectify his own fuck ups anyway.

At least Semedo can correct his mistakes if they happen. Roberto on the other side is too slow for that, is incredible easy to get past and his defensive positioning is poor. Roberto makes a lot of silly mistakes but doesn't seem to be a Problem for you as long as he "offers more going forward".

JamDav1982 · Feb 22, 2018

5ergio_Busquets said:
At least Semedo can correct his mistakes if they happen. Roberto on the other side is too slow for that, is incredible easy to get past and his defensive positioning is poor. Roberto makes a lot of silly mistakes but doesn't seem to be a Problem for you as long as he "offers more going forward".

Semedo has made plenty he has not rectified and looking at stats Roberto has better defensive figures on both Squaka and Who Scored and far far better attacking stats.

The latest myth is that Semedo has been great defensively. He hasnt been, his positioning has been poor and he looks lost as he does going forward.

'Incredibly easy to get past' but makes more tackles and not much difference in how often they get dribbled.

5ergio_Busquets · Feb 22, 2018

JamDav1982 said:
Semedo has made plenty he has not rectified and looking at stats Roberto has better defensive figures on both Squaka and Who Scored and far far better attacking stats.

The latest myth is that Semedo has been great defensively. He hasnt been, his positioning has been poor and he looks lost as he does going forward.

'Incredibly easy to get past' but makes more tackles and not much difference in how often they get dribbled.

No point to continue this discussion.
Ok even Douglas is better than Semedo! Happy?

JamDav1982 · Feb 22, 2018

5ergio_Busquets said:
No point to continue the discussion.
Ok even Douglas is better than Semedo! Happy?

Nope he isnt.

George_Costanza · Feb 22, 2018

JamDav1982 said:
Nope he isnt.

JamDav1982 · Feb 22, 2018

George_Costanza said:

Nice one.

gatsu · Feb 22, 2018

Roberto is by no means better than Semedo going forward. He is going more forward but in a very clumsy manner. After more than a year playing, he still doesnt understand RB principles. Yes he shows more willingness offonsively but the result is the same as the one produced by the shy Semedo. No added value and a dead right side.

JamDav1982 · Feb 22, 2018

gatsu said:
Roberto is by no means better than going forward. He is going more forward but in a very clumsy manner. After more than year playing he still doesnt understand RB principles. Yes he shows more willingness offonsively but the result is the same as the one priduced by a shy

Roberto has been far better going forward.

Semedo looks completely lost majority of time is asked to pass the half way line.

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