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    Quote Originally Posted by booge View Post
    paco and roberto probably have half the talent but ended up being more efficient yesterday.
    Great observation, specially regarding Paco.
    He literally touched the ball TWICE, both unimportant back-passes... very efficient...

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    and he would of had a great assist on messi too with his two touches.. more than semedo all game

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    Funny how people are complaining about his offensive play but not saying a word on how well ge defends. Loses almost no 1v1. The situation yesterday when he changes the direction when running backwards vs 2 players from alaves was just great. Made the crosspass difficult for them.
    People here seem to rate rate a rb only for his offensive play. He needs ro improve on this part but dont be so negative him. I didnt see a really bad game from him yet and i watch every barca match...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danic View Post
    Funny how people are complaining about his offensive play but not saying a word on how well ge defends. Loses almost no 1v1. The situation yesterday when he changes the direction when running backwards vs 2 players from alaves was just great. Made the crosspass difficult for them.
    People here seem to rate rate a rb only for his offensive play. He needs ro improve on this part but dont be so negative him. I didnt see a really bad game from him yet and i watch every barca match...
    He tracks back well when can use his pace and that has been mentioned plenty of times.

    His positioning can be shit though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calidad View Post
    He’s potentially one of the best in his position in the world. He has everything in his locker, other than confidence and synergy with the team, which is understandable when he’s new to the team, and Valverde is playing him irregularly or hauling him off at HT.

    Roberto is excellent and I believe he should be a first choice in the side too, but as a CM, not a RB. Valverde, as well as previous managers seem to want to play him everywhere other than in his natural position, despite excelling there when he gets the rare opportunity to.

    ———————————————Ter Stegen
    Semedo(Roberto)———-Pique(Mina)——Umtiti(Verm)———-Alba(Digne)
    —————————————-—Busquets
    ————————Roberto————————--Iniesta/Coutinho
    Dembele———————Messi————Suarez

    Rakitic, Paulino, Alena, Arnaiz, Paco should be rotation options for the midfield and forward positions.

    I’d get rid of three of 4 of Gomes, D Suarez, Vidal, Deulofeu.

    Roberto can sit alongside Busquets when needed, or can bomb forward when needed. He’s perfectly capable of doing both.

    It’s a balanced lineup. Why won’t Valverde try it?
    Because:
    1. Semedo is questionable in defense
    2. Roberto will bomb forward and leave holes behind him for slow Busi who is alone in midfield, since you have attacking Roberto and weak Semedo on that side (not to mention Dembele who can't defend)
    3. Iniesta/Coutinho are weaker defenders than Rakitic, Paulinho, even Gomes
    4. Dembele can't defend
    5. Messi doesn't want to defend
    6. Luis is an attacker

    Since Mats is a GK, we would basically have 4 players (and Roberto) and in this lineup who can defend.
    And do you know what would happen?
    = classical Lucho's 433 Barca with not too much defending, too many egos on the field, without strong (4 men) midfield and with weak defense.
    Against Chelsea, Psg, Juve, Atletico we would face probably 20 deadly counters per match and we would look like 13 years old kids in midfield.

    What you posted is not the most balanced lineup.
    But actually the most "shiniest" lineup where:
    1. Semedo plays as a RB because he is shiny and attractive on paper
    2. Roberto plays as a CM because he can make attacking solo runs from time to time. He is more "attractive" in attack than Rakitic/Paulinho/Gomes
    3. Iniesta/Coutinho are here
    4. dribbler Dembele is here
    5. Messi is here
    6. Luis is here

    The only worse (or less balanced) lineup than this one would be a lineup with Coutinho-Iniesta-Messi-Luis-Dembele together on a field.
    That would be an ultimate disaster in terms of allround team's balance.
    Last edited by BBZ8800; 30th January 2018 at 02:57 PM.

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    BBZ the type of guy to sign Zabaleta over Semedo

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    Semedo is yet to show anything. Zabaleta had a solid career.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barcaman View Post
    Semedo is yet to show anything. Zabaleta had a solid career.
    Talking about current Zabaleta. He’s shit.

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    I´m baffled by the lack of offensive awareness that he shows. It was his strong suit in Benfica. Strange.

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    I'm not worried about him, its Denis and Suarez fault he doesnt have an assist yet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danic View Post
    Funny how people are complaining about his offensive play but not saying a word on how well ge defends. Loses almost no 1v1. The situation yesterday when he changes the direction when running backwards vs 2 players from alaves was just great. Made the crosspass difficult for them.
    People here seem to rate rate a rb only for his offensive play. He needs ro improve on this part but dont be so negative him. I didnt see a really bad game from him yet and i watch every barca match...
    This. That move was class in terms of awareness and anticipation. He does need to improve defensively and offensively but for me his ceiling is much much higher than Roberto on Defense and stands to be a good player going forward as well. His run in box behind defense where Coutinho got to him was smart. He is a very solid player.

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    Did you guys notice in the last match there was a moment when Messi received the ball on the right wing, Nelson was standing to his left watching and Messi actually pointed to his right to show him he should make a run?

    You would assume that is something he should already be familiar with. #Strange! indeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sultan View Post
    Did you guys notice in the last match there was a moment when Messi received the ball on the right wing, Nelson was standing to his left watching and Messi actually pointed to his right to show him he should make a run?

    You would assume that is something he should already be familiar with. #Strange! indeed.
    Especially strange when you consider it's the total opposite of what he was in Benfica.



    Whatever the problem is, lack of confidence etc, Sergi is definitely the better play atm.

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    He will settle with time. Everyone can see his obvious skills, so in the end he will come out great.

    Expecting players to click from day one is a luxury Barca-fans have gotten too used to, to appreciate (Umtiti, Paulinho, etc.).
    It's normal with a bit of up and down in the beginning, and we have already seen great performances from him as well.

    It is really not his fault that Roberto is a freak of nature who can perform ridiculously good, on his day, in a position he shouldn't be able to play.
    He will get enough playing time in the rest of the season to be a secure starter after summer, and hopefully Roberto has fully overtaken Rakitic' role in that time.

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    Earlier in the season I got caught up in the whole Semedo/Roberto debate but that’s because I wanted Roberto to play in midfield at the expense of an underperforming Rakitic. But I’ve since tried to stay clear of this thread. I just want to mention one thing though.

    Semedo’s problem is his lack of tactical nouse and his inability to play in and with the midfield. All extremely important for a full back playing for Barça.

    This is a guy who officially took up football at 16 years old and it shows. Especially when playing for Barça, whom demand a lot of their full backs. It all looked good at Benfica because it was just bombing forward. Here he has to play in midfield about 60%+ of the time. It’s going to be a long slog for him.