Kul_z
Senior Member
There is no sudden death pressure.
La liga:
Imagine playing round 5 at Betis.
If you lose 2:3, who cares?
Are you dead?
Is the championship done?
Are you KO'd for that season?
= no. You will play better in the next 4-5 rounds and you will neutralize that slip.
You play at Sevilla/Atletico in a round 18.
You lose 0:1.
Are you KO'd?
That is my point.
There is pressure in La liga, but there is always a part: if you lose, you will ALWAYS have time to neutralize those mistakes in upcoming rounds.
There is no "100% urgency".
There is SOME urgency and pressure.
But whatever happens, you will usually have lots of time to fix those mistakes and slips in upcoming weeks or months.
While in a CL against Roma/Juve/anyone, when you start losing 0:2 in the 45th minute, you are in big problems.
You have ONLY 45 minutes to score 2 goals or you are DEAD for this season.
You won't get another chance next week at Las Palmas (or 18 matches till the end of a season) to neutralize your past mistakes.
In that sense, imo, our players are in "a comfort zone".
They know that RM will usually make more mistakes against small teams and so, even if we lose from time to time in La liga, NOTHING significant will happen.
We know that we are too good for La liga, more or less, over 38 rounds.
And then, when we come to a CL and when we start losing, we are in deep problems and can't seem to wake up.
Haven't you had that feeling 100s of times with our team in a CL?
= we are losing, and it seems that we don't have any response, any urgency, we play as if we have 10 days to create something.
While with Rm, for some reason, if they need a goal in a CL in the 85th minute, they will create 10 chances in the last 5+5 minutes through: middle, crosses, solo actions.
YOu know that feeling: Real is losing 1:2 in the 80th minute in a CL, but you "know" that they will score 2 goals, probably in the 88th and in 94th. One will be a pen, other will be Ronaldo's header.
On the other hand, when Barca is losing 1:2 in the 80th minute, more or less, nothing will happen.
We won't get the ball at all, or we will pass it slowly, try some dribbles and at best, we will attempt 1-2 shots. (Ok, there are also rare matches like Psg 6:1).
But now, try to think about this:
1. Barca's motivation in a CL's KO matches.
And Real's motivation.
2. Barca's response and urgency when they are losing in a CL matches.
And then Real's response and urgency.
3. how many times Barca was able to turn the KO match around lately?
How many time Real has done the same?
4. how many times Barca scored (except against Psg) in the last 5-10 minutes?
How many times (lol, 100?) has Real done the same?
Barca became a complacent, entitled and "a comfort zone" team.
We know that we are kings of La liga.
We will win in the end, no matter what.
And so we don't have too much pressure or urgency, imo.
On the other hand, when we play in a CL, we face exactly the same problems in each season.
Add to this that Barca is Messi-dependant and that Messi has some mental strength issues lately.
And now, mix our complacent-comfort zone team with Messi who sulks under pressure lately (when we start to lose) and you get Atletico, Juventus, Roma over and over again, like looking the same match all the time.
There is a word for this: delusion.
This shit (sorry for being harsh) exists only on Barca's forum:
1. when RM is winning titles: their crossing style sucks. Our Barca's style is awesome, and we will stick to it, even though we aren't winning anything in Europe anymore.
So, RM is banging titles, but we are "the moral winners", because we play our unique (losing) style, lol.
2. when CR7 is scoring goals, key goals and winning trophies, Messi is again a winner.
Because there is so much more in football than goals and trophies.
Basically, in short:
1. when Barca and Messi win=we are winning because we are the best
2. when RM and CR7 win=they are winning because of luck, the devil, refs, opponents mistakes. And we are still true winners, because in football there is much more than goals, trophies and winning, lol.
When Barca is winning sextuples=stats and trophies matter.
When Messi is banging 50 goals per season=stats and goals matter.
When Messi and Barca start losing=there is much more to football than stats
I have said already, I SOOOO want us to buy Thiago now and to play Cou-Thiago-Busi in 433.
Then I'll prepare 1000 portions of popcorn and read million of alibies why aren't we winning shit.
Because it is 2018/19 and it won't work anymore.
Remember:
1. No Xavi-Iniesta anymore
2. teams learned how to play against our 433
3. Messi was younger and playing at a RW
4. we had 2 wingers who defended (or at least one, Pedro)
5. we had Alves as a false midfielder, we actually played with 4 midfielders and 3 attackers who were defending
Today:
Thiago-Coutinho, lol.
Teams evolved against us.
Messi is not a RW, but dropping deep.
In attack: Suarez, Messi and Dembele defending, lol. Behind them Coutinho defending, lol? This sounds awesome...
No Alves.
I mean, if everything will click perfectly, this team could only be a poor, poor, poor copy of that team on every level.
Oh ffs. Point is, we need messi at the final third, and players that are able to back it up. Like you saw, our style has evolved in some utter shit performances.
Coutinho-thiago lol?
Mats
Semedo pique umtiti alba
Busi
Thiago raki coutinho(or other variations)
Messi dembouz(suarez fat cunt)
This team under ev could do wonders. Tech as fuck with coutinhos long shots(actually an upgrade from xavi and iniesta for buses) busi raki thiago sounds like dealing with pressure would be a joke + coutinho and dembouz helping.
Left flank with alba coutinho and dembouz would be fire, right flank not much because alves ofc was one of a kind.
