10 - Lionel Messi - v5
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bismp
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If neither Messi nor CR win the CL or the WC,i can see the award go to player that actually won one or both these titles.
Pedro
La Masia
Well that didn't happen in 2010 when Inter won the CL and Spain won the World Cup, Messi still won the Ballon D'or.
bismp
Well-known member
Well that didn't happen in 2010 when Inter won the CL and Spain won the World Cup, Messi still won the Ballon D'or.
Yeah but we reached the CL semis that year.We had won the treble in 2009 and we were still considered the best team in the world.
Messi himself was tearing teams apart back then.Plus there wasn’t any “voters’ fatigue” that year...This is the biggest thing to consider IMO.
so what this award become, a tournament award instead of best player of the year ? the big difference in NBA MVP selection, they look at players performance then the team standings. That’s how it should be, player first before team achievements
Truthist
New member
Salah.
Truthist
New member
It doesn't help that he has to directly link up with Suarez who's link up play is below standard. Any return pass is at best over hit or puts Messi out of sync.
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vlad
New member
I hope Barca and Madrid meet in the knockout stages or final of the CL, Leo will punish them and CR7 wont win the B'dor, otherwise CR7 is nailed on to overtake Leo and win his 6th B'Dor
I hope they will not meet in final, just a thought that real is so close to win 3 cl in a row, 4th in 5 years, 1 less then barca in whole history, would bother me, and its just 90 minutes, you can get fucked by ref and its over
Mitchell1978
Senior Member
last couple of years it has become a Champions League award, this year there's a world cup so a little different.
Pepe Silvia
Active member
Ye of little faith...
serghei
Senior Member
So true. Good runs even.
footyfan
Calma, calma
Barca are too predictable when Messi is the main focal point. It might work against lower level teams, but it is found sorely wanting in the CL. Kinda both Messi's fault and the tactics + other players. so can't really hold him accountable alone. Messi destabilized midfields and defences with his dribbling with extreme regularity in Pep's era. This is not the case anymore. Although his technical skills are still great, he lost those destabilizing dribbles. Whether its due to a change in role (more playmaking) or him losing that physical level or a combination of both doesn't really matter. Neymar would have been great had he stayed, he has those destabilizing dribbles but he doesn't have Messi's decision making/game sense and unselfishness.
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BerkeleyBernie
Senior Member
He trusts Coutinho, no hesitation in giving him the ball.
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