Luis Suárez

Ousmane Dembélé said:

Read the fucking post again you illiterate buffoon, I clearly allude to the fact that Rakitic shouldn't be in the starting lineup, but it's Valverde who has started him there. Rakitic is SHIT, no denying it, but calling him a fraud is wrong.

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Ousmane Dembélé said:

Of course Suarez has been far better for us over the past 3 years than Rakitic, I never claimed otherwise. I didn't make any concessions for Rakitic's on field performances either. All I said is that he is a bad player being played in the starting lineup when he shouldn't be, but that's not something he can control and shouldn't be called a fraud when he is still trying to perform to his best even if he might not be good anymore.

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Ousmane Dembélé said:

You are one bitter old bastard, you use sarcasm to deflect from your glaring insecurities.

Of course it's Rakitic's fault that he has turned to shit, who knows why the guy has become as bad as he is now, there is no denying that.

Rakitic is shit and shouldn't be picked by Valverde anymore and Suarez has been quite mediocre to shit over the past year and I think he could use a benching or should at least complete that surgery on his knee to see if that improves him. If he continues like this until the end of the season we will need to replace him (Yes Rakitic also need replacing before you go there).

My point is I wouldn't call Rakitic, Suarez, nor any other hard working Barca player a fraud simply because they have declined.

You have been blatantly caught making false claims before reading my post and shoving words down my throat and now you're shamelessly doubling down instead of admitting you were wrong.

Here is MY opinion in 3 simple lines:

Rakitic has been shit for the past two seasons + this one.
Suarez has been shit for the past year.

Neither should be called a fraud.

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Ousmane Dembélé said:

I'm sorry but I don't sit around online waiting for you to post replies to my comments, if I happen to be on my computer, I'll reply. You might have nothing better to do since you live in Scotland, but not everybody is handed such a great misfortune upon birth.

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Ousmane Dembélé said:

There's a reason I said it was MY opinion, I said Suarez and Rakitic have BOTH BEEN SHIT recently, but neither should be called a fraud and proceeded to give an explanation as to why he should not be, that explanation also applies to Suarez or most other players as to why it is wrong to call them frauds.

Now please find where in any of my posts I made 'concessions' for Rakitic. You fucked up, didn't read the post fully, we all make mistakes, just own up to it.

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Ousmane Dembélé said:

Those so called 'concessions' you're talking about is an explanation as to why he should not be called a fraud, not excuses defending his piss poor performances.

I've repeated this multiple times already.

I would also make the same 'concessions' regarding Suarez. Valverde is the one picking the lineups and Suarez should not be called a fraud since he is still trying. I would make these so called 'concessions' for any player in our squad bar Arda. So for you trying to say that I'm making excuses for Rakitic and not Suarez is completely off point and blatantly wrong.

For the last time I'm not making these 'concessions' for Rakitic to excuse his shit play, which has frankly been horrendous, but rather as an explanation as to why he shouldn't be called a fraud. I would make the same statement about any other player in our squad.

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Ousmane Dembélé said:

I'm sorry but I don't sit around online waiting for you to post replies to my comments, if I happen to be on my computer, I'll reply. You might have nothing better to do since you live in Scotland, but not everybody is handed such a great misfortune upon birth.

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Ousmane Dembélé said:

Good performance by his standards? For sure.

He had a couple good moments, he beat a defender got a shot on target, made a good cross to Alba and scored a headed goal. That's all the positive contribution I remember him making. Still horrible touch, dribbling and passing for the most part.

He really should've finished that Gomes pass to win us the game.

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Ousmane Dembélé said:

Criticize players and be harsh on them for their performances all you want, just don't call them frauds.

Rakitic is also a finished player, who has the pace and tempo of a turtle, misplaces his passes more often than not, and can't make a forward pass to save his life. This is my assessment of Rakitic and I don't think it is any less harsh then my opinion on Suarez.

You can hate on me all you want for my opinions on Suarez, that's completely fair, but don't try and act like I'm sort of Rakitic sympathizer when I believe he is the worst player in our starting XI on most if not all nights.

I was simply giving a reason why people shouldn't be calling our players frauds and I think you misconstrued it or took it out of context as me being a Raki apologist.

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Ousmane Dembélé said:

A fraud in terms of football is a player who doesn't try his best whenever he plays, regardless of his ability or skill.

Here is the formal definition of fraud: "a person or thing intended to deceive others, typically by unjustifiably claiming or being credited with accomplishments or qualities."

So I don't know how you could possibly call Rakitic a fraud even if you think he is a shit player, which he is and I don't see what's wrong in acknowledging that Suarez is carrying a couple extra pounds. I mean the guy can definitely make massive strides in his conditioning. Even Messi has been out of shape numerous times throughout his career, dieting and conditioning isn't nearly as black and white as putting an effort out on the pitch and in no way makes a player a fraud.

Instead of further deflecting can you finally admit that I didn't make any 'concessions' for Rakitic's shit performances? There really is no need to further twist my words and change the path of this conversation, just admit you made a mistake.

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Ousmane Dembélé said:

I don't know how any professional footballer can 'deceive' others with their performances. At most they could maybe they can deceive a bunch of fickle Facebook fanboys whom rely purely on stats to evaluate a player, but coaches and fans who actually watch the matches cannot be fooled, of course a lot of it subjective, but there is usually a general consensus. There are many reasons for weight gain and lack of conditioning, again it's not black and white and player following the strictest of diets and most intense regimes can still find themselves out of shape due to their genetics or hormonal imbalance.

Suarez's performances speak for themselves, but he somehow isn't frauding his way into the lineup with his performances, but rather Valverde can see that he is off form but continues to start him because his pedigree and lack of proven options on the bench. I have no idea how you're equating my comments about Suarez to that of calling him a fraud.

You're grasping at straws here.

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