Lucas Digne

Nucky

Senior Member
You guys are missing the point.

This isn't about letting Bartra or Grimaldo go and spending on Digne, it's about developing Lucho's team and addressing what he wants in a squad.

Our problem last season was this:

-Bartra
-Adriano
-Verm
-Sandro
-Munir
-Douglas
-And the jury is still out on Arda and Vidal

These are players that occupied room in our squad and were of no use at all. Lucho didn't want to play these guys and essentially they became dead weight and were useless. Meanwhile our starters were driven to exhaustion to the point where we nearly collapsed and lost the league.

So what if Digne isn't a world class player? If Lucho actually uses him and he contributes to our team by A) Actually playing (lol) because Lucho wants him in hte squad B) Putting on decent performances against lesser opposition and C) Giving Alba rest, then who gives a fuck about the 20m or selling Bartra and Grimaldo?

I totally agree with you.. Players we signed this summer (Umtiti,Suarez and Digne) will all start as back up players.. I don't know Umtiti and Digne well cuz I don't watch Ligue 1 nor Serie A but I expect big things from D.Suarez in the future.. Anyway I don't like spending big on back up players.. It would be strange if we bought Digne to be starting LB.. Who knows maybe they will develop into WC players.. And you also need squad players, not just superstars..
 

Co0ter

Senior Member
You want the coach to rotate in CL knockout?

My point is he always played them in the CL and any big or important game. He's rarely rested that midfield trio the past 1.5 season. I'm not sure how anyone can argue it. Benching one or two of them in early copa matches isn't really what I consider rotating.
 
F

Flavia

Guest
Why are people overreacting? A new Douglas? Jesus fucking Christ, are you even listening to yourself?

We desperately needed a LB backup who wasn't Adriano or Mathieu, you won't find a better LB who is willing to sit on the bench to begin with, and he's young and still promising, not to forget the fact that two seasons ago he was one of the, if not the biggest LB talent in Europe, having showed great potential at Lille. Yes, he couldn't knock off Maxwell, but he's more or less still in the form of his life. He went to Roma where he has been really solid, in a league where demands for defenders are huge.

16M (potentially 20 in some years which could turn out to be worth it anyways) is decent, and he will probably get good chances to show himself, due to Alba's injury history and the usual chances in cups/vs bad opponents.

We actually got a good deal we needed, it happened extremely effectively, and there's still money left for Vietto who I don't think will cost more than 20M + Vermaelen and pocket change Douglas, Tello, Song, Adriano.

That would conclude a phenomenal window, in my opinion. Well done by the technical secretary, Robert and Lucho. And no, not the board. It's not their job to pick and buy players, ffs.

Lucho has been signing short term since he came. This window, only long-term, with players who can all play against solid opposition if tested in the spot. You complain when we sign and are rumored with old wood and also complain when we buy promise? Decide..

The RB market it horrible, so why waste the money now when Bellerin is a realistic target next season? Roberto showed he can do the job next season and Vidal needs to show more, but it's easy to forget he's still trying to adapt a new style, let alone a whole new position.

A world class midfielder? Seriously? First of all there's not even a need. Iniesta and Rakitic are class first picks, and Arda, Roberto, Rafinha, Denis are more than capable to cover for them. Secondly, a world class midfielder would block any development for our own youngsters on the team, all of whom have already showed they can perform on this level against any opposition. Arda already blocked some younger minutes last season, and look how he played! He's staying, so how on earth would you fit a world class midfielder on the bench, and where in heaven's name would you get the money? Let's say Digne wasn't signed and we settled with Mathieu as the LB backup. There'd be 36M left in the bank. Which world class midfielder can you sign for that? And on top of that, someone who is willing to sit behind Rakitic whom we all know is loved by Lucho and will stay as a fixed starter. Sometimes, people just talk and talk without putting their considerations in realistic boxes with sensible arguments.

If we get Vietto, this window has been fantastic. Only Marquinhos would've made it perfect imo, but we all know it's impossible, plus Mascherano is staying for now and Umtiti is great.

Next season, when the money is there, Bellerin should be more than happy to return, and then our RB is settled for many, many years to come. And that's only if Vidal + Roberto underperform.

Let's say Iniesta or Rakitic will need a replacement after next season and it's clear that Arda should leave and Rafinha, Roberto or Denis aren't ready to take over, then there's a genuine concern on that position, and a galactico signing like Pogba would be in the cards. Otherwise we'll just continue like this, either way sell Arda imo because Halilovic is coming back and let Denis, Rafinha and Roberto continue to develop in the same roles, not even to forget that Samper would be back too after a hopefully successful loan and that Kaptoum and Aleña have had good years at Barça B, which would mean some first team chances at least.

Just what I think...

TL;DR: Digne isn't a "scam", solid signings who can help now and in the future, no need for more after a backup striker. If needed, a top CM and Bellerin for next summer.

:pique1:


My point is he always played them in the CL and any big or important game. He's rarely rested that midfield trio the past 1.5 season. I'm not sure how anyone can argue it. Benching one or two of them in early copa matches isn't really what I consider rotating.

Rafinha and Xavi started plenty of liga games, after january.
 

Toecrusher

New member
Why are people overreacting? A new Douglas? Jesus fucking Christ, are you even listening to yourself?

We desperately needed a LB backup who wasn't Adriano or Mathieu, you won't find a better LB who is willing to sit on the bench to begin with, and he's young and still promising, not to forget the fact that two seasons ago he was one of the, if not the biggest LB talent in Europe, having showed great potential at Lille. Yes, he couldn't knock off Maxwell, but he's more or less still in the form of his life. He went to Roma where he has been really solid, in a league where demands for defenders are huge.

16M (potentially 20 in some years which could turn out to be worth it anyways) is decent, and he will probably get good chances to show himself, due to Alba's injury history and the usual chances in cups/vs bad opponents.

We actually got a good deal we needed, it happened extremely effectively, and there's still money left for Vietto who I don't think will cost more than 20M + Vermaelen and pocket change Douglas, Tello, Song, Adriano.

That would conclude a phenomenal window, in my opinion. Well done by the technical secretary, Robert and Lucho. And no, not the board. It's not their job to pick and buy players, ffs.

Lucho has been signing short term since he came. This window, only long-term, with players who can all play against solid opposition if tested in the spot. You complain when we sign and are rumored with old wood and also complain when we buy promise? Decide..

The RB market it horrible, so why waste the money now when Bellerin is a realistic target next season? Roberto showed he can do the job next season and Vidal needs to show more, but it's easy to forget he's still trying to adapt a new style, let alone a whole new position.

A world class midfielder? Seriously? First of all there's not even a need. Iniesta and Rakitic are class first picks, and Arda, Roberto, Rafinha, Denis are more than capable to cover for them. Secondly, a world class midfielder would block any development for our own youngsters on the team, all of whom have already showed they can perform on this level against any opposition. Arda already blocked some younger minutes last season, and look how he played! He's staying, so how on earth would you fit a world class midfielder on the bench, and where in heaven's name would you get the money? Let's say Digne wasn't signed and we settled with Mathieu as the LB backup. There'd be 36M left in the bank. Which world class midfielder can you sign for that? And on top of that, someone who is willing to sit behind Rakitic whom we all know is loved by Lucho and will stay as a fixed starter. Sometimes, people just talk and talk without putting their considerations in realistic boxes with sensible arguments.

If we get Vietto, this window has been fantastic. Only Marquinhos would've made it perfect imo, but we all know it's impossible, plus Mascherano is staying for now and Umtiti is great.

Next season, when the money is there, Bellerin should be more than happy to return, and then our RB is settled for many, many years to come. And that's only if Vidal + Roberto underperform.

Let's say Iniesta or Rakitic will need a replacement after next season and it's clear that Arda should leave and Rafinha, Roberto or Denis aren't ready to take over, then there's a genuine concern on that position, and a galactico signing like Pogba would be in the cards. Otherwise we'll just continue like this, either way sell Arda imo because Halilovic is coming back and let Denis, Rafinha and Roberto continue to develop in the same roles, not even to forget that Samper would be back too after a hopefully successful loan and that Kaptoum and Aleña have had good years at Barça B, which would mean some first team chances at least.

Just what I think...

TL;DR: Digne isn't a "scam", solid signings who can help now and in the future, no need for more after a backup striker. If needed, a top CM and Bellerin for next summer.

This is waay too rational for Barcaforum...need to get some bipolarity knocked into you.
 

barcanuck

New member
Good signing. We got a backup for Alba now instead of Mathieu being forced there and also the departing Adriano.

3 left footed French 🍟 at the back hehe
 

CatalinR10

Senior Member
Why are people overreacting? A new Douglas? Jesus fucking Christ, are you even listening to yourself?

We desperately needed a LB backup who wasn't Adriano or Mathieu, you won't find a better LB who is willing to sit on the bench to begin with, and he's young and still promising, not to forget the fact that two seasons ago he was one of the, if not the biggest LB talent in Europe, having showed great potential at Lille. Yes, he couldn't knock off Maxwell, but he's more or less still in the form of his life. He went to Roma where he has been really solid, in a league where demands for defenders are huge.

16M (potentially 20 in some years which could turn out to be worth it anyways) is decent, and he will probably get good chances to show himself, due to Alba's injury history and the usual chances in cups/vs bad opponents.

We actually got a good deal we needed, it happened extremely effectively, and there's still money left for Vietto who I don't think will cost more than 20M + Vermaelen and pocket change Douglas, Tello, Song, Adriano.

That would conclude a phenomenal window, in my opinion. Well done by the technical secretary, Robert and Lucho. And no, not the board. It's not their job to pick and buy players, ffs.

Lucho has been signing short term since he came. This window, only long-term, with players who can all play against solid opposition if tested in the spot. You complain when we sign and are rumored with old wood and also complain when we buy promise? Decide..

The RB market it horrible, so why waste the money now when Bellerin is a realistic target next season? Roberto showed he can do the job next season and Vidal needs to show more, but it's easy to forget he's still trying to adapt a new style, let alone a whole new position.

A world class midfielder? Seriously? First of all there's not even a need. Iniesta and Rakitic are class first picks, and Arda, Roberto, Rafinha, Denis are more than capable to cover for them. Secondly, a world class midfielder would block any development for our own youngsters on the team, all of whom have already showed they can perform on this level against any opposition. Arda already blocked some younger minutes last season, and look how he played! He's staying, so how on earth would you fit a world class midfielder on the bench, and where in heaven's name would you get the money? Let's say Digne wasn't signed and we settled with Mathieu as the LB backup. There'd be 36M left in the bank. Which world class midfielder can you sign for that? And on top of that, someone who is willing to sit behind Rakitic whom we all know is loved by Lucho and will stay as a fixed starter. Sometimes, people just talk and talk without putting their considerations in realistic boxes with sensible arguments.

If we get Vietto, this window has been fantastic. Only Marquinhos would've made it perfect imo, but we all know it's impossible, plus Mascherano is staying for now and Umtiti is great.

Next season, when the money is there, Bellerin should be more than happy to return, and then our RB is settled for many, many years to come. And that's only if Vidal + Roberto underperform.

Let's say Iniesta or Rakitic will need a replacement after next season and it's clear that Arda should leave and Rafinha, Roberto or Denis aren't ready to take over, then there's a genuine concern on that position, and a galactico signing like Pogba would be in the cards. Otherwise we'll just continue like this, either way sell Arda imo because Halilovic is coming back and let Denis, Rafinha and Roberto continue to develop in the same roles, not even to forget that Samper would be back too after a hopefully successful loan and that Kaptoum and Aleña have had good years at Barça B, which would mean some first team chances at least.

Just what I think...

TL;DR: Digne isn't a "scam", solid signings who can help now and in the future, no need for more after a backup striker. If needed, a top CM and Bellerin for next summer.


stfu it doesn't matter what you think Digne is a future flop and that is a FACT
 

CatalinR10

Senior Member
how can something that hasn't happened be a FACT :lol:



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Barcaman

Administrator
Staff member
PSG dumping player to barcelona is completely not true.
PSG tried to renew contract in May but player refused.
In fact, Digne is one who stole the NT spot from Kurzawa.

Lastly, Roma is not buying Digne because they are about to break FFP rule
so they have to let him go even though Roma need him

Welcome and sorry for the late post validation :welcome:

It does seem Roma fans were happy with him too so I reckon this could be a solid signing.
 

i_bleed_blaugrana

Senior Member
Lucho has been signing short term since he came. This window, only long-term, with players who can all play against solid opposition if tested in the spot. You complain when we sign and are rumored with old wood and also complain when we buy promise? Decide..

Sometimes, people just talk and talk without putting their considerations in realistic boxes with sensible arguments.

Let's say Iniesta or Rakitic will need a replacement after next season and it's clear that Arda should leave and Rafinha, Roberto or Denis aren't ready to take over, then there's a genuine concern on that position, and a galactico signing like Pogba would be in the cards. Otherwise we'll just continue like this, either way sell Arda imo because Halilovic is coming back and let Denis, Rafinha and Roberto continue to develop in the same roles, not even to forget that Samper would be back too after a hopefully successful loan and that Kaptoum and Aleña have had good years at Barça B, which would mean some first team chances at least.

Just what I think...


TL;DR: Digne isn't a "scam", solid signings who can help now and in the future, no need for more after a backup striker. If needed, a top CM and Bellerin for next summer.

:worthy: :pique1::goodpost:
 

jamrock

Senior Member
If one of I iniesta or rakitic gets Injured, everyone will be saying why didn't we sign a class midfielder, who fits the system, not world class, but better than Rafa,roberto and Denis and fits the system better than Arda.

During our most successful runs we have always had that one midfielder, who we know is the first option off the bench.

Having Mathieu resting Alba and putting that money into a midfielder would have been money much better spent if u ask me.

But maybe Rafa,samper or denis will turn into that player or Arda will finally adapt, in which case the transfer would still make no damn sense for that money. lol. on a back up fb.
 

Aryagorn

Improvin' Perfection!!
If one of I iniesta or rakitic gets Injured, everyone will be saying why didn't we sign a class midfielder, who fits the system, not world class, but better than Rafa,roberto and Denis and fits the system better than Arda.

During our most successful runs we have always had that one midfielder, who we know is the first option off the bench.

Having Mathieu resting Alba and putting that money into a midfielder would have been money much better spent if u ask me.

But maybe Rafa,samper or denis will turn into that player or Arda will finally adapt, in which case the transfer would still make no damn sense for that money. lol. on a back up fb.
We had Keitee to rest our mid fielders back in 2008-09 and 2010-11, and a certain Thiago Alcantara.... Not taking anything away from Keitee but Sergi Roberto himself is better than him and we now have Denis who is better than what Thiago was back then!

Edit: Actually Thiago was not yet a regular even in 2011
 
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jamrock

Senior Member
We had Keitee to rest our mid fielders back in 2008-09 and 2010-11, and a certain Thiago Alcantara.... Not taking anything away from Keitee but Sergi Roberto himself is better than him and we now have Denis who is better than what Thiago was back then!

That's just so lol I won't ever reply more than that, Roberto better than keita
 

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