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    Quote Originally Posted by ATLBarcaFan View Post
    No chance he starts, which is a terrible strategy and may cost us the tie.
    No it won't. The other option may very well be more likely to cost us the tie if they press high and we dont stretch or push back their defence. If they score a late goal, we cant chase the game afterwards. One goal advantage is still very risky.

    Las Palmas game is already a hard lesson learnt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MessiCam View Post
    Some stuff on Dembouz



    The above is what I've been talking about. He is not ready to play in a 4-4-2 and probably never will due his defensive deficiencies.

    Another article also says that Piqué has taken him under his wing.
    Didn't you doubt all "he is a bad defender" thing before?
    And too bad he can't play 442 because this will hurt his playing time, he isn't good enough right now for team to change its set up for him, atm he isn't worth that or even close to

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    Quote Originally Posted by khaled_a_d View Post
    Didn't you doubt all "he is a bad defender" thing before?
    And too bad he can't play 442 because this will hurt his playing time, he isn't good enough right now for team to change its set up for him, atm he isn't worth that or even close to
    It's not that he can't defend. It's his attitude towards defending that grates me. In the Malaga game his pressing was levels above that shit he put out against Espanyol in that midweek cup game but still not good enough.

    And I think you're going to be very surprised by Valverde playing 4-3-3 as he did earlier in the year before Dembélé's injury. It's already happened against Girona and Malaga. I'd be surprised if it happens in the Champions League though but it will be played in La Liga.
    Last edited by MessiCam; 13th March 2018 at 03:22 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by khaled_a_d View Post
    Didn't you doubt all "he is a bad defender" thing before?
    And too bad he can't play 442 because this will hurt his playing time, he isn't good enough right now for team to change its set up for him, atm he isn't worth that or even close to
    Yes he doesn't do much defensive work but a fast and skillful player certainly will make the opponents more cautious going forward and leaving space for him. So although you wouldn't see him doing many tackles or defensive pressing his presence on the field contributes to the teams defense.
    And who of the available players can do a better job than him? Paulinho can't defend and spends a lot of his time on the field too far forward and Chelsea wouldn't mind him having the ball in their half knowing he either will pass it backwards, sideways or give it away if he manages to control it in first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by khaled_a_d View Post
    Didn't you doubt all "he is a bad defender" thing before?
    And too bad he can't play 442 because this will hurt his playing time, he isn't good enough right now for team to change its set up for him, atm he isn't worth that or even close to
    The irony is that the system got changed because of his injury.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GOAT_SUAREZ View Post
    The irony is that the system got changed because of his injury.
    Well, it was that plus the fact that Denis and Deulofeu were useless as wingers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FCBfan22 View Post
    Well, it was that plus the fact that Denis and Deulofeu were useless as wingers.
    Big reason was Suarez struggling on the left side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barcaman View Post
    Big reason was Suarez struggling on the left side.
    Not anymore. Also, it's mostly a 4231 if Dembele plays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FCBfan22 View Post
    Well, it was that plus the fact that Denis and Deulofeu were useless as wingers.
    It's unlikely to change this season in the UCL but you can already see them going back to the old system in some La Liga games. I'm interested how we handle it next year because Suarez can't play LW. Or do we play Dembele there and Messi RW? Tbd

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    Quote Originally Posted by henias View Post
    Not anymore. Also, it's mostly a 4231 if Dembele plays.
    But Messi fan still think it is 433?
    But I agree it is 4231 but even in that Dembele will need to do more defensive job, same for Coutinho.

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    Best front line would probably be Dembele-Messi-Griezmann if we’re going with a false 9 formation.

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    I think/hope Suraez will be fine as left forward. I think his bad performance out left was more down to form then position. As long as Alba will provide width, we should be fine with 433

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    Quote Originally Posted by khaled_a_d View Post
    But Messi fan still think it is 433?
    But I agree it is 4231 but even in that Dembele will need to do more defensive job, same for Coutinho.
    I’m not going to go into the nitty gritty of this... Dembélé can’t play with a double pivot. He is too lazy off the ball. A 2 man midfield will be easily overrun and countered. Doesn’t matter if it’s 4-4-2 or 4-2-3-1...

    Against Girona.


    Here you see Messi as False 9 with Suárez and Dembélé in the half space.


    Suárez and Dembélé in the half space, Messi deep with Coutinho in attack.


    Again, Messi in the centre with Suárez and Dembélé in the half space. Coutinho making a run from midfield.


    Here again. Same thing...


    Here Suárez and Dembélé (again in the half space) have switched flanks. Messi in the centre playing in midfield.

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    Why would you post pictures when we are in possession to show something about Dembele's defensive qualities?

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    There are rumours that Cahill might start tomorrow in Rudiger's place. If that's the case, Dembouz needs to play, because he will tear him a new one.

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