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    Quote Originally Posted by Tekkers View Post
    If Barca fans weren't as optimistic about Valverde before the Roma thrashing then the board wouldn't have been considering this.
    Was sagst du?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joan Laporta View Post
    Was sagst du?
    The talk about Dembele coming off his injury wasn't that he was causing us to suffer because he "didn't drop back enough"?

    He had "terrible attitude because he didn't want to celebrate with his teammates in friendly matches"?

    Or that "Barca would be better leaving him on the bench until next season because he is not a fit for Valverde's 4-4-2 system"?

    There were guys dedicating entire YouTube videos to tracking Dembele's movement on YT (they're posted in this very same thread) to make it seem like he was the problem and not Valverde.

    This is Barca's fans doing for standing behind this manager until he got exposed by Roma. Now Barca are clearly fully devoted towards signing Griez, which leaves Dembele as the old man considering Suarez's seniority (and relationship with Messi).

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    You said:

    Quote Originally Posted by Tekkers View Post
    If Barca fans weren't as optimistic about Valverde before the Roma thrashing then the board wouldn't have been considering this

    Thanks for everything Valverde
    What does the opinion of Barca fans has to do with board's decisions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tekkers View Post
    The talk about Dembele coming off his injury wasn't that he was causing us to suffer because he "didn't drop back enough"?
    The talk was that he doesn't know how to defend and at times, doesn't work hard enough.

    What are you implying? That Bartomeu reads Barcaforum?

    Or that "Barca would be better leaving him on the bench until next season because he is not a fit for Valverde's 4-4-2 system"?
    This is true.

    Valverde is not good enough to change the system in the middle of the season.

    There were guys dedicating entire YouTube videos to tracking Dembele's movement on YT (they're posted in this very same thread) to make it seem like he was the problem and not Valverde.

    This is Barca's fans doing for standing behind this manager until he got exposed by Roma. Now Barca are clearly fully devoted towards signing Griez, which leaves Dembele as the old man considering Suarez's seniority (and relationship with Messi).
    Again, what does it have to do with fans?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joan Laporta View Post
    You said:



    What does the opinion of Barca fans has to do with board's decisions?



    The talk was that he doesn't know how to defend and at times, doesn't work hard enough.

    What are you implying? That Bartomeu reads Barcaforum?



    This is true.

    Valverde is not good enough to change the system in the middle of the season.



    Again, what does it have to do with fans?
    I'm talking about the fans in general, not just on this forum. All those overreactions on social media following his return from injury that existed until the collapse at Roma is what led to this.

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    Sounds like rubbish lmao.

    Ain’t no way they gonna sell him, they’d surely have to pay Dortmund all the add ones if they sold him.
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    Bartomeu literally said Dembele isn't going anywhere.

    QUE D10S NOS PROTEJA

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    Roger Saperas, is reliable but something seems off about what he reported and what also some folks said who were listening.

    The tweet makes it sound like they want to sell him but from what some others were listening, it seems like a loan rather than a sale instead. But it mentions that Dembele is living the dream and wants to fight for his place despite Griezmann coming.

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    Loan would make sense. If they see there's no space for Dembele, it makes sense to loan him till Suarez leaves.

    Selling would awful. It's what people do with stocks(and why they lose their money), buy high and sell low while panicking. That's how you end up losing the most, so that's not what we should do with Dembele.

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    It won't be easy to sell him IMO not due to teams not being interested but Dembele doesn't want to leave in the first place.

    You can't forcefully sell him against his will. I mean the dude destroyed any good will he had at Dortmund to move here his dream club and you think just after one season he will be easily sold? The only thing I could think of is the club generally is exploring a loan option and they don't want to sell him at all. But even that is up to Dembele if he wants to go out on loan or not.

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    For the record RAC1 was complete rubbish last summer.

    Usually they are considered to be reliable but after the shit they reported last year I’d take it with a grain of salt.
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    The only journalist from RAC1 who spread inaccurate reports during last summer was Gerard Romero (a.k.a. OJO merchant)

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    Selling him would just prove how terrible this board.

    How does a loan make sense? His biggest problem is consistency and not being able to link up with teammates. A loan does nothing to help that, in fact, it brings us back to square 1.

    Even it his minutes get sacrificed next year, let him learn his teammates, language, and the system.

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    if we sell Dembele, EV should be hanged

    I rarely agree with 'player power' but ffs players revolt, please get rid of this shit fucking manager

    1. I don't want to watch his garbage 442 Mourinho style football
    2. his management of Dembele and Semedo is shocking, Alena next
    3. the guy has midtable priorities, uninspiring yes-man who commands little to no respect from the seniors
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    There is no smoke without fire. Truth of the matter is that Demebele is no less guilty than Valverde. If the latter is known for his notorious conservative approach to the game, then the former is also guilty for showing nothing. Despite the relatively defensive approach of Valverde let's not kid ourselves for the sake of empathy, barca still outdo opponents in possession and still pretty much more attacking minded than 99% of teams. Dembélé was started many games where he didn't impress at all save for the chealsea game, mainly because of the important goal and nothing else.

    I think selling him is a good option, we panic bought him but the shitty board kind of repaired that by carefully monitoring other offensive cards, and it paid off. Griezman is a great piece of business.
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    kilometers matter ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Total-Football View Post
    There is no smoke without fire. Truth of the matter is that Demebele is no less guilty than Valverde. If the latter is known for his notorious conservative approach to the game, then the former is also guilty for showing nothing. Despite the relatively defensive approach of Valverde let's not kid ourselves for the sake of empathy, barca still outdo opponents in possession and still pretty much more attacking minded than 99% of teams. Dembélé was started many games where he didn't impress at all save for the chealsea game, mainly because of the important goal and nothing else.

    I think selling him is a good option, we panic bought him but the shitty board kind of repaired that by carefully monitoring other offensive cards, and it paid off. Griezman is a great peace of business.
    He is raw and has things he needs to work on since it's expected due to his age, he also has shown quality as well. It's just you are to blinded by hatred of the dude because he was brought in to replace Neymar.

    Griezmann and Dembele are not even the same style of player. Griezmann should be brought in but not for Dembele but for Suarez, who has shown severe decline which was evident even last season. Suarez is not going to return back to his best years at all and he doesn't even have that hunger nor mentality anymore either.

    Would be one of the dumbest deals we have ever done if we sold him. all because we need to keep ole Suarez happy. Betting all your chips on a aging and declining player like him is just asking for trouble.

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