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    Quote Originally Posted by Messi983 View Post
    And this will be a reaction of our opponents when they'll see them in the line up.

    That's the reaction when 6' 6" Mina goes up for a corner

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    Quote Originally Posted by gasgas View Post
    @BBZ8800

    What do you think of that performance.
    Or do we disregard it because it's copa del rey?
    1. entered at 4:0 in CDR when the match and opponents were dead and with zero motivation to defend
    2. played in a lineup WITHOUT Messi and Roberto, two players who clash with his playing area
    3. his decisions will need a lot of improving and learning

    We did see that he has a tons of talent and that he can do things which 99,9% of others players can't.
    But still, it will mean nothing for the team if a coach won't find a position for him or if a player will ruin actions with bad decisions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Messi983 View Post
    And this will be a reaction of our opponents when they'll see them in the line up.

    I have huge concerns about a balance of that 4men attacking formation, but let's see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BBZ8800 View Post
    1. entered at 4:0 in CDR when the match and opponents were dead and with zero motivation to defend
    2. played in a lineup WITHOUT Messi and Roberto, two players who clash with his playing area
    3. his decisions will need a lot of improving and learning

    We did see that he has a tons of talent and that he can do things which 99,9% of others players can't.
    But still, it will mean nothing for the team if a coach won't find a position for him or if a player will ruin actions with bad decisions.
    Oh, you are good. Doubts start to creep in...

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    They were probably defending tougher and deeper at 4-0 as they were out the tie but wanted to avoid a pumping.

    First half they were far more open and all over the place as thought tie was still alive.

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    Or you can realize BBZ will split hairs to downplay any performance a young player like Dembele puts up.

    It's either

    A- Other team is not motivated

    B-Team looked tired

    C. He only looked good because Messi and Bob didn't play.

    If he had a good game from the start.

    A. Team is garbage

    B. They were tired from the last match they played.

    C. They left so much space that even Vidal would look good.

    I mean BBZ can make some good points but there's so many cases where he literally does everything in his power to nitpick and dowplay performances making it looking like he really doesn't give two shits about young talented players.

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    Makes sense BBZ dislikes him, he's our new Neymar, only black.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barcaman View Post
    Makes sense BBZ dislikes him, he's our new Neymar, only black.
    And neymar was what? Latino/white,?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamrock View Post
    And neymar was what? Latino/white,?
    They are all same to you, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barcaman View Post
    Makes sense BBZ dislikes him, he's our new Neymar, only black.
    Good. If BBZ dislikes Dembouz more than Neymar, we can say that he is racist.

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    Think BBZ is black too though, pretty sure he told me this once.

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    Ah, bummer.

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    lol stop lying. There are no black men in Croatia.

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    Nah it's BBZ being a guy who is really hard to impress.

    Dembele has his work cut out for him in order to his seal of approval.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xXKonan View Post
    Or you can realize BBZ will split hairs to downplay any performance a young player like Dembele puts up.

    It's either

    A- Other team is not motivated

    B-Team looked tired

    C. He only looked good because Messi and Bob didn't play.

    If he had a good game from the start.

    A. Team is garbage

    B. They were tired from the last match they played.

    C. They left so much space that even Vidal would look good.

    I mean BBZ can make some good points but there's so many cases where he literally does everything in his power to nitpick and dowplay performances making it looking like he really doesn't give two shits about young talented players.
    Look, I am at least congruent.

    If I hated and whined against Neymar for years, from the small Dembele's sample, there is no reason to change my mind.
    They are quite similar type of players.
    Except that Neymar was annoying as a person and had fights with everyone (opponents, teammates, referees).

    Dembele seems like a likeable guy, but in terms of football, he seems to be a Neymar No2.
    A talented dribbler, winger. Who for now has some of the same flaws as Neymar.

    What is "worse", current Dembele is way weaker player than Neymar from 2017, less experienced, with weaker decisions.
    And even worse, his playing area clashes with Messi's.

    Someone said a few pages ago that I hate all wingers.
    Well, I don't have or didn't have any problems with Ronaldinho, Messi, Figo (sorry everyone).
    So, it is not about wingers.
    It is more about wingers who disrupt midfield/team's balance and who aren't efficient.

    Dembele will buy me if a team will play way better when he is on a field (compared to 11 players when he is not on a field), which is not a case till now.
    Plus, if he'll be good in terms of end product like assists, pre assists, goals.

    Anyway, I also feel bad to be negative about this kid, but we'll need some negative opinions also, because his situation is not as shiny as majority on this forum think.
    As said before:
    1. how will he play with Messi and Roberto on a field (on a right flank)
    2. will a team lose our awesome midfield and defensive balance when Paulinho/Gomes will go out in order to make room for Dembele
    3. decisions
    4. end product
    Last edited by BBZ8800; 13th January 2018 at 01:22 AM.

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    @BBZ8800 is going to be one hell of a demanding father in law. That's for sure.

    Are you a doctor, paid very well, a good nice moral person, never been in a trouble with the law and don't smoke or drink?

    Well, you still did that one thing 7 years ago so.....



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